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To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/11/1998 6:20:00 PM
From: TLindt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7247
 
>>>IF ANYONE SHOULD BE IN TROUBLE IT SHOULD BE THIS A-HOLE STARR FOR SPENING MILLIONS OF OUR DOLLARS ON THIS CRAP

Blame it on the Democratic prehistoric congress....they loved to use the axe on Ronnie, Republicans wanted to get rid of the non-sense OSP, at the laws renewal, but the Dems' just had to have the law renewed and voted it through....

Bit them square in the ass, it did....can anybody say..

Read your history...want to blame anybody...blame the dog that bit you. The brilliant pompus...rightess folks did it to themselves.



To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/11/1998 6:30:00 PM
From: Nazbuster  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 7247
 
At least Bill can auction off the cigar for his defense fund...



To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/11/1998 6:45:00 PM
From: LakesideTrader  Respond to of 7247
 
None of this would have happened if Clinton had settled the
Jones case.



To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/11/1998 7:58:00 PM
From: Nazbuster  Respond to of 7247
 
Hey Tim... Have a great weekend... Here's some humor to close this week: #reply-5726535



To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/12/1998 1:37:00 PM
From: Dave Shares  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 7247
 
(OT)

You're absolutely right Tim, $40 million for what, a sex novel.

For $40 million, we could have fed a lot of hungry people, or bought a lot of books for schoolchildren, or fixed a lot of roads, or helped fund new initiatives in health care or technology development or helped a lot of struggling businesses which could have kept a lot of people employed.

We all know that Clinton lied. He lied about some very sleazy things he had done. But who did he hurt ? Well, he hurt his family, big time.
But as far as I am concerned, it is between him and his family, and to bring it all out here is nothing more than a political hatchet job.

Yes, he lied regarding a deposition in a civil case with respect to an extramarital affair. I'd like to know how many citizens who have done this have been charged with felony perjury.

I'm not asking anyone to like Clinton, or even to respect him, because what he has done certainly is morally wrong, and no one is going to argue about that.

But from my perspective, in terms of a CRIMINAL matter, it does not compare to:

A prior administration that authorized a burglary for political purposes that was subsequently covered up, and

A prior administration that diverted millions of dollars for the covert assistance of rebels and lied about it.

When you lie about cheating on your wife, it is morally wrong, but when you lie about having committed a crime against the country and cover the crime up, that is another matter, at least in my humble opinion.

Off my soapbox.

David




To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/12/1998 4:28:00 PM
From: Stormin Norman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7247
 
I am sure that you have or will see this part of the Starr report but here is the kicker for me and I am not wasting anymore time reading this deal. IMHO this nails it down, it is all over but the crying and White House Rebuttal is the biggest smoke screen scam I have ever heard of. $40,000,000.00 is a steal for this.

On January 17, 1998, Ms.ÿJones's lawyers deposed President Clinton under oath with Judge Wright present and presiding over the deposition. Federal law requires a witness testifying under oath to provide truthful answers. The intentional failure to provide truthful answers is a crime punishable by imprisonment <--------- OH MY ! ! !
YOU MEAN AN APOLOGY WONT COVER IT?

and fine. <------------- :o) OOOOOOOOH, GUESS WE GOING TO NEED MORE FUNDRAISERS. At the outset of his deposition, the President took an oath administered by Judge Wright: "Do you swear or affirm .ÿ.ÿ. that the testimony you are about to give in the matter before the court is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?" The President replied: "I do." <--------------------- BIG TIME MISTAKE.

I DO BELIEVE WE WILL SEE HIM ALONG SIDE JIMMY CARTER BUILDING A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOUSE IN THE NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE.

--------- the article continues and I won't interupt again.

A. Evidence that President Clinton Lied Under Oath During the Civil Case

1. President Clinton's Statements Under Oath About Monica Lewinsky

During pretrial discovery, Paula Jones's attorneys served the President with written interrogatories.(6) One stated in relevant part:

Please state the name, address, and telephone number of each and every [federal employee] with whom you had sexual relations when you [were] .ÿ.ÿ. President of the United States.(7)

The interrogatory did not define the term "sexual relations." Judge Wright ordered the President to answer the interrogatory, and on December 23, 1997, under penalty of perjury, President Clinton answered "None."(8)

At the January 17, 1998, deposition of the President, Ms.ÿJones's attorneys asked the President specific questions about possible sexual activity with Monica Lewinsky. The attorneys used various terms in their questions, including "sexual affair," "sexual relationship," and "sexual relations." The terms "sexual affair" and "sexual relationship" were not specially defined by Ms.ÿJones's attorneys. The term "sexual relations" was defined:

For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in "sexual relations" when the person knowingly engages in or causes .ÿ.ÿ. contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.ÿ.ÿ.ÿ. "Contact" means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing.(9)

President Clinton answered a series of questions about Ms.ÿLewinsky, including:

Q: Did you have an extramarital sexual affair with Monica Lewinsky?

WJC: No.

Q: If she told someone that she had a sexual affair with you beginning in November of 1995, would that be a lie?

WJC: It's certainly not the truth. It would not be the truth.

Q: I think I used the term "sexual affair." And so the record is completely clear, have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court?

Mr.ÿBennett:(10)

I object because I don't know that he can remember --

Judge Wright:

Well, it's real short. He can -- I will permit the question and you may show the witness definition number one.

WJC: I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. I've never had an affair with her.(11)

President Clinton reiterated his denial under questioning by his own attorney:

Norman



To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/13/1998 10:25:00 AM
From: majormember  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7247
 
>IF ANYONE SHOULD BE IN TROUBLE IT SHOULD
BE THIS A-HOLE STARR FOR SPENING MILLIONS
OF OUR DOLLARS ON THIS CRAP

Tim,

TOTALLY AGREE!

After getting bashed for stating essentially the same
thing, I'm glad to see there is some sanity on Silicon.

Skane



To: Tim Luke who wrote (1549)9/13/1998 7:26:00 PM
From: Cheeky Kid  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7247
 
You are missing one spin off. All the newspapers, magazines, advertisers dollars spent during prime time discussion on this topic....look at the money it has put into the economy....not just in the USA, but other countries where people find an interest in this.