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To: Raymond James Norris who wrote (1051)9/14/1998 11:21:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1542
 
He is not saved by virtue of someone lifting him up but he saves himself.

I do not agree with that thus Yeshua..................

We cannot control our lives with regards to death or sickness so how are we to save ourselves.........

Without some sort of submission the after life would be just as barbaric as we are accustom to today. Satan felt he had all the answers so why are we any different if we can claim to be able to save ourselves.

Alan



To: Raymond James Norris who wrote (1051)9/14/1998 2:51:00 PM
From: Chris land  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1542
 
Raymond

<<The Jew and Muslim believe that man is exactly what he was intended to be: a man, nothing more or less. He is not saved by virtue of someone lifting him up but he saves himself.>>

The Christian on the other hand depends upon the grace and forgiveness of sins by the one and only saviour, Jesus Christ.

Chris


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