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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dayuhan who wrote (24927)	9/19/1998 5:07:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<I get the feeling that I'm repeating myself...> I know how you feel, Steve. I feel like I'm repeating myself, as well. I guess I would just say that I hold the president to a higher ethical standard than I do other office holders, because of his role as the chief law enforcement officer of the land, and that having sex with an intern at work is not private sexual behavior in any way, and that lying under oath to deprive Paula Jones of her right to fair consideration of her lawsuit is not exactly as simple as "lying about sex" either. I am also getting tired of the Democratic spin that impeaching Clinton or forcing his resignation is "overturning an election". It is not really, since impeachment is part of our national governmental process. Overturning an election to me would more logically involve some destruction of democratic principles, and this procedure is written into ours. Rising disgust? I'm not really sure. I think we will see more clearly on Monday, after the videotapes have been digested. I do know that now 125 newspaper editors have called for his resignation or impeachment. One of the very curious things about all this is that the elites have been out in front, while the general public is still more satisfied with Clinton. I attribute this to the fact that the general public does not read newspapers or newsmagazines to the same degree that the chattering classes do, and so have not really gone beyond an initial compartmentalizing of all this, because uncertainty is uncomfortable. I also think that people who may walk by a newspaper stand and glance at a headline, and watch five minutes of news a day are more susceptible to spin. The telling moment in the sense of rising disgust will come after the videotape is released, and people who mostly watch tv will be able to watch and decide whether they still support this president. I think the credibility issue is really important here. Clinton really showed how far he will pursue a lie. I am personally of the opinion that character does matter in our leaders, and that he can no longer be trusted at all. Now when he speaks I see through him, and he has become an international laughing stock. It is true that other presidents have done things wrong, but with the exception of Nixon, who resigned, I can think of no other example of one who was so persistent in lying. As one example, LBJ lied about Vietnam but decided not to seek reelection because of that. I have watched his speech on the issue, and believe he was remorseful. The way Reagan dealt with the Iran-Contra scandal was certainly more open than Clinton has in this one. And at least Nixon had the common decency to leave office before he dragged America through an impeachment trial. Clinton is coldly calculating that he still has the necessary 34 votes in the Senate, period. I don't think he has any real love of America, or concern for Americans, in his heart. I know that if I had conducted myself like that I would resign simply to spare my daughter the anguish of being exposed to the material that is coming out. So I just don't think he has any dignity or integrity, qualities I value in leaders. Aren't those things important to you? I think maybe you are a bit more cynical than I am.