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To: jpmac who wrote (12486)9/16/1998 2:18:00 AM
From: Graystone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
You misread me
or
The Grounds

As I said, tawdry but serious.
Using esteem and position to gain sexual favours is not proper, wether the recipient is willing or not. Other people have concerns with this behaviour. It is serious.

Regardless of the role Hilary plays in his life, she has the grounds. That is all I said. It could indeed land him in court, could, not will. It is not a religious matter, it is divorce law. That is tawdry.

We Canadians were, in my opinion, blessed with Pierre Eliot Trudeau, surely one of the great Canadians, we know about tawdry.



To: jpmac who wrote (12486)9/16/1998 5:29:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
A minor noodge: I think the First Lady spells her name with a double L. I paid attention the first time I saw that because I'm used to the more common form "Hilary".
As for men and victims - not all us guys think of H or M as somehow naive or involuntary participants. I'm only a little hung up on Billy goating it up in the office. I'm a lot hung up on him fudging about it under oath. Then that first speech in which he grudgingly expressed his regrets for getting caught. Yeeecch.