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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3453)	9/17/1998 8:04:00 PM
From: jim kelley	Respond to of 67261

Michelle, I heard it on TV last night. I suppose it is true....... If they try to run Newt for president, he will not survive the special prosecutor that gets assigned to him. He apparently shares the same definition of adultery as Clinton, ( namely that it has to be intercourse- so oral is ok). Jim Kelley

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3453)	9/17/1998 8:29:00 PM
From: Doughboy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

Michelle, some interesting history which I'd like to pass along over here on this thread. Henry Hyde defended a colleague, Daniel Crane, on the House floor who carried on an illegal affair with a 17 yr old congressional page. If the standards were applied to Crane that Starr is applying to Clinton, Crane apparently committed obstruction of justice and perjury under oath (not to mention statutory rape), and only admitted the affair after a 1.5 million dollar investigation by a special counsel. Yet Hyde said: We sit here to find a punishment that fits the breach, and so in searching our souls for the appropriate punishment, I ask the Members to consider this situation in its totality, in its entire context. I suggest to the Members that Dan Crane would rather have lost an arm at the shoulder than have to tell his wife, than have to greet his wife as he did with the media. I suggest that all life is about is to earn the esteem of our fellow men. That is what we are here for. That is why we run for election. . . . That is lost to Dan Crane. He is embarrassed, he is humiliated, he is displaced. And it endures; it is not over. It will never be over. It will not be over as long as he lives . . . . Mr. Speaker, I suggest to the Members that compassion and justice are complementary. The Judeo-Christian tradition says, "hate the sin and love the sinner." We are on record as hating the sin, some more ostentatiously than others. I think it is time to love the sinner. In no small part due to Hyde's speech and his towering reputation, Crane and Gerry Studds (whom also had an affair with a page)were both CENSURED by the House after more serious charges of expulsion were voted down. Doughboy.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3453)	9/17/1998 8:46:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 67261

They misquoted him in Investors Business Daily. Here's the link to his article: austin360.com He hasn't made a commitment yet to running. Most candidates won't make the declaration till next Spring when they start fundraising. As for political intimidation, Gen. Colin Powell decided not to run in 1996 due to Democrat dirty tricks, especially James Carville. Another article today: Firecracker at Lewinsky Dad's Home Filed at 8:28 p.m. EDT By The Associated Press LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A firecracker stuffed into a mail slot at the home of Monica Lewinsky's father exploded in what police on Thursday called a prank. No one was hurt. Neither Ms. Lewinsky, her father nor her stepmother were home when the firecracker exploded sometime Wednesday, Officer Charlotte Broughton said. Barbara Lewinsky, the former White House intern's stepmother, ''noticed burn marks on the floor today,'' the officer said. The Police Department was notified at 11:05 a.m. and the bomb squad was dispatched. The Lewinskys returned home Wednesday night ''but it wasn't until this morning they discovered the debris'' and minor power burns to the wooden living room floor, Sgt. Willie Guerrero told reporters outside the Brentwood home 10 miles west of downtown. The firecracker was put through a mail slot just to the right of the home's front door, police Detective Joseph Aparicio said.