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Politics : Did Slick Boink Monica? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Spunky Beaver who wrote (19299)	9/19/1998 3:23:00 PM
From: Mr Metals	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20981

The following is a list of people connected with Bill Clinton. None are alive today by strange co-incidence. The odds of this being happenstance are the about the same as your blood having the same DNA match exactly as the richest man in the world. ------------------------------------------------.------------------------- James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. C. Victor Raiser II - Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992. Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house. James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater. Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a codefendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones. Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fianc‚ of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fianc‚, he was found dead in June 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fianc‚. Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. Florence Martin - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot sounds. Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death. Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident. Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation. Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington, DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal. Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce, who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother. Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole. Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released. Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July 1988. Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988 Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989. Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes. Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a setup robbery July 1989 THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: Major William S. Barkley Jr. Captain Scott J. Reynolds Sgt. Brian Hanley Sgt. Tim Sabel Major General William Robertson Col. William Densberger Col. Robert Kelly Spec. Gary Rhodes Steve Willis Robert Williams Conway LeBleu Todd McKeehan Mr Metals

To: Spunky Beaver who wrote (19299)	9/19/1998 4:58:00 PM
From: Michael Sphar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20981

Yep! There you go! A real "ends justifies the means" moralistic approach to your fallen leader's immoral, illegal, unethically and might I add kinda stupid actions of the past 9 months as well as the past 30 or 40 years.

To: Spunky Beaver who wrote (19299)	9/19/1998 5:34:00 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20981

Spunk: Unlike the president, no none has attempted to criminalize Henry Hyde's private life yet. Nope. And no one but Bill himself criminalized his private life. By my recollection, Starr's investigation turned to the Monica Lewinsky matter after Monica blabbed a variety of things to Linda Tripp (who taped the conversations because she feared for her job and feared being trashed in a manner similar to what she'd seen before when the White House put its spin meisters in action). Thereafter, Starr's office began investigating the possibility that Bill was involved with (a) the sumission of a false affidavit in connection with the Paula Jones v. William Jefferson Clinton case and Clinton himself sat down in a deposition, swore an oath to tell the truth and proceeded to lie up a storm. This is wholly apart from that famous speech on TV where Bill said to the nation and world, "I didn not have sexual relations with that woman. Ms. Lewinsky." What a crock. This didn't start because Starr was interested in Clinton's sex life. It started because Starr became aware that there was credible evidence that Clinton was involved in perjury and possible obstruction of justice. And what does time have to do with it? If you committed the act, does the passage of time counteract it? Time has everything to do with it, as does the definition of "the act." The "act" in Hyde's case was a private affair some 30 years ago. The "act" in this case was perjury and obstruction of justice, committed while Clinton occupied the highest elected office in the country. Clinton lied under oath, Hyde didn't. Oh, you would have spilled the beans right off the bat would you? If Clinton had admitted the affair 8 months ago in the deposition, we would not be where we are today. And, imagine this Spunk, if he had just apologized to Paula Jones several years ago (and it was a vague apology that would have satisfied her at that time) we never would have had to deal with the President of the United States invoking executive privilege in connection with a private lawsuit. I agree this is different. Hyde's action are more premeditated and drove a family to split apart. I haven't heard ole Hank say he was sorry yet. Have you? I may be wrong about this and I'm sure you'll correct me if I am, but as I understand it, the woman Hyde had his affair with was separated from her husband at the time. He didn't drive any family apart. It was already split up. Curious that Mr. Snodgrass chose this time to air his grievance. Where's he been the past 30 years? Hmmmm. No this isn't about sex and it isn't about justice. THIS IS ABOUT POLITICS! I'll agree with you on that one to a degree. But, think about this, what would have happened if the name was not Bill Clinton, but George Bush. The democrats would have been screaming for his resignation. Remember Clarence Thomas? He never diddled anyone, much less in or near his office at the EEOC, and he was pilloried by the Democrats. His crime it seems was making some off color remarks about Coke cans and pubic hairs and "Long Dong Silver." If you ask me, that's a far cry from engaging in sex with an employee half your age in the workplace. If Bill was the CEO of a corporation, he'd have been axed immediately for exposing the company to potential liability in a sexual harassment lawsuit. Can you spell quid pro quo? Where are the Democratic feminists now who were so outraged at Clarence Thomas's behavior? Yeah, I bet you feel a whole lot of concern for the first family. How do you presume to question what I feel? I do feel badly for Chelsea Clinton. She didn't ask to be born into that family and she certainly didn't ask that her father diddle a woman who, at the time, was just a few years older than Chelsea is now. I imagine it's going to be a tough semester for her at Stanford. As for Hillary, that's another matter. She cut her deal long ago and has to live with it. I've always found that fresh air works wonders for airing out bad smells. Perhaps the air will be clearing in D.C. in the coming weeks?