SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : The Final Frontier - Online Remote Trading -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: steve goldman who wrote (5333)9/24/1998 1:03:00 PM
From: peter michaelson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 12617
 
steve, irby, all,

I'd be very interested in reading your impressions of the Island Book Viewer - which is, if I have it right, a streaming view of the Island order book on any stock on Island.

I would like to know if there exists elsewhere a view into the order book of a market maker or ECN beyond the current bid/ask. I've never used Level II, but I thought that shows only the current bid/ask for each market maker.

The Island Viewer shows orders deep below and high above the current bid/ask, including volumes. Seems like a powerful tool to assist in gauging near-term future direction.

Please take a look at tell me what you see. It operate during market hours only.

isld.com

thanks much, peter



To: steve goldman who wrote (5333)9/26/1998 1:59:00 PM
From: Gary Korn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12617
 
Interesting trading activity at Fidelity Spartan last week (as I continue to ponder whether to sign on with MBT, CyberT or Yamner):

Trading in INTC was fine. Fidelity routes orders to Knight Securities, which offers excellent and extremely rapid fills. Not infrequently, Knight will fill an INTC buy/sale at prices that I did not think I could get.

Trading in CIEN was terrible. Fidelity is its own MM in this stock. The fills are awful. How to describe? Examples:

a. Bid 11 1/4, Ask 11 5/16. Put in a market sell. Bid drops to 11 3/16 or even 11 1/4 for a nano-second, fills my sell, then comes back to 11 1/4. I'm sure (or would hope) that Yamner would route to a better MM than this.

b. Bid 11 1/4, Ask 11 5/16. For 5 minutes running, the bid/ask stays glued in this position as endless purchases of 1,000, 2,500 and 5,000 shares at the Ask go through. Almost no sales at the Bid. Then, at the end of the run, out prints a 100,000 share trade at 11 1/4. This happened many times and I just BET that the MM had taken in the lot, sold it off out of inventory, and then printed the lot late. This was great for the MMs 100,000 share customer. It wasn't great for me after the 100,000 share block showed up.

Trading in XYLN, which was slow on Friday, was interesting. After having bought limit, tt was nice putting in an offer to sell between the bid/ask, waiting, and watching it be filled. I'm sure MBT and CyberT would work well for this kind of activity.

Gary Korn



To: steve goldman who wrote (5333)9/26/1998 4:04:00 PM
From: TFF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12617
 
Long Term Capital...now THAT'S what I call a margin call!!