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To: nihil who wrote (68952)	10/4/1998 2:07:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 176387

OT Back to whales and aboriginal peoples Nihil, since you asked I will answer -- yes, I am a vegetarian with an occasional foray into seafood (like once every other month). This is for health reasons, not for philosophical ones. And yes, I am very concerned with a variety of ecological issues. And yes, your comments about the savagery inflicted by Europeans on other groups is indeed appalling. It might even interest you to know that I am a descendant of one of those victimized groups you mentioned in your post. I would also like to point out that I did considerable economic development work among the tribes of the northwest, and have first hand knowledge of their social and economic conditions. I am very sensitive to their plight, and concur that they have been victimized by European settlers, and then by the US government. But there is no reason for a victimized group to become a victimizer. Your arguments are really transmogrifications of the ones that used were to justify black antisemitism. You could not be a racist if you were not in a position of power. Therefore, the vitriol emanating from the mouths of certain Black Muslims could not be racist because black people were victims. QED The point is that it is no more justifiable for a Norwegian or Japanese fisherman to take a whale than it is for a Makah tribesman. If it is wrong for one, it is wrong for all. It might interest you to know that the IWC initially refused the Makah's petition to hunt. It was only through the intervention of the US that the Commission eventually reversed itself. Let me pose this question to you: several aboriginal groups were cannibals prior to the imposition of European rule over those tribes. Do you think that it is wrong for society at large to prevent that activity? And if so, why? CTC