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To: gfr fan who wrote (6823)10/3/1998 10:19:00 AM
From: Doug  Respond to of 18016
 
gfr fan: Thanks for your refreshing technology valuation of the 3 Networking Companies.






To: gfr fan who wrote (6823)10/3/1998 4:57:00 PM
From: pat mudge  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18016
 
They are winning most every major new deal out there. They also have ATM access technology for the enterprise and carrier edge that NN can't compete with.

Ascend did not win SBC --- with a footprint in 40% of RBOC space --- nor did they win BT, AT&T, Telecom South Africa, New Zealand Telekom, Cable & Wireless, and a long list of others.

CSCO's Stratacom stuff is behind NN, but CSCO can leverage the carrier's dependence on CSCO's routing base, and new CSCO switches are around the corner. However, CSCO wants the world to go packet - they would rather have routers control the carrier core as compared to ATM switches from Stratacom. This may hurt them long term, but it won't be NN who stings them - it will be ASND or someone else.

Cisco is behind NN on the carrier class switches and the jury is still out on NN versus ASND. In your opinion how will the landscape change if LU and NN team up?

NN's problems? They got distracted trying to be an enterprise player with ACC, UB, and that VIVID stuff. No profits to show from it. Also the high end IP stuff isn't there to date, so their core competency is the 36170 line, and it is under severe attack from ASND. I think their best bet is to marry themselves with someone who can use their market presence and ATM knowledge, and then beef up their R&D, mktg., and bring in IP from somewhere else. On their own, I think NN gradually loses share. (both market share and share price)

Selling ACC for over $250 million CDN profit represents I believe 5 times return of capital. A move that's positioned themselves to fill gaps where needed. I agree UB was a total disaster. So too was 3Coms' purchase of USRX, or so it appears. Mistakes are made. I agree NN could maximize their strengths through a strategic marriage. I also agree it won't be NN who stings CSCO, though it could be NN along with their as-yet-unannounced partner.

The landscape is changing so quickly, I find myself walking softly when it comes to making predictions. I recall asking an old-timer in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, about the weather, and he said, "Dunno. But, if you don't like it, wait five minutes."

Incidentally, I heard yesterday Cisco's OC-48 has been pushed back. What are you hearing?

Later --

Pat




To: gfr fan who wrote (6823)10/3/1998 6:38:00 PM
From: Doug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18016
 
gfrfan: ASND's Leadership in respect of WAN Frame & ATM switches and Gateways for VOIP,Voice over Frame and Voice over ATM may well be correct. I will also concede that this segment is growing the fastest.

However, it is quite different in case of ATM Carrier Switches. Based on last years data. NN had 36% whilst ASND had 5.3% of the global market.

As for Ascend Market Leadership, the following extract may be relevant:

World-class carrier and ISP networks depend on Ascend's extensive experience to grow public network facilities. With more than 3,500,000 access concentrator ports at ISP, carrier and corporate
enterprise sites worldwide, Ascend equipment is used by the leading international post telegraph and telephone companies to offer Internet access. The MAX WAN access switch family accounts for 50.6 percent of the worldwide market share in access concentrator analog ports, 62.2 percent of access concentrator ISDN PRI ports and 33.6 percent of access concentrator T1 DSOs2 Ascend equipment supports more than 30 million Internet connections daily.

Ascend is also the number one provider of Frame Relay and ATM equipment to ISPs world wide, with 42 percent of Frame relay WAN switch connections, and 23 percent of ATM WAN switch connections.3 Over 50,000 MAX, and 10,000 MAX TNT access concentrators have been deployed in ISPs and carriers worldwide. Vertical Systems cites Ascend as the leading provider of Frame Relay equipment to the carrier market, with 21.6 percent share 4.

Source: Q2 1997 Dell'Oro Report
Source: August 1997, Infonetics Research