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To: mark silvers who wrote (1318)	10/5/1998 4:22:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

Mark, Now I cannot resist. You know what they say about opinions!!!!!! Why should it matter that I have an "opinion" Are you saying that my agreement with the Bible on the subject is not a legitimate reason to believe something? Then are you saying that should your wife choose to have a lover you would not or could not care. Is that the attitude? That does not sound like you from what I know. dan

To: mark silvers who wrote (1318)	10/5/1998 4:39:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

Hey Mark, I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this. First of all I am nobody's judge. That job is taken. But, you did ask for in your own words observations. I am willing to listen to pro/con. I am not a pro but I hope you'll hear me out. <<what is wrong with two adults having a sexual relationship outside of marriage? What aspect of that sexuality is wrong, sinful or harmful to anyone?>> In my own words; What I have noticed so far, is that in order to define two consenting adults as having a sexual relationship with each other without being sinful or harmful to anyone, you have to dismiss every other relative person from having any stake in the situation. You have to insist its your own private affair. No body else's business, right? So, we are talking about spouses, parents, children and sometimes future spouses, or relationships. You have to be able to do this in an encapsulated form because as soon as it touches the extended relations of either person this definition cracks. This is so difficult to achieve that it often involves deception at the very roots of the affair. Everybody I have known who has gotten entangled in an affair starts out saying it is something very special. Meaning, I guess, that it is outside of the social fix that the rest of us are caught up in. As long as the encapsulation lasts they seem credible. I haven't seen one that is infallable. Unfortunately the untangling of affairs always brings the age old reality of the suffering associated with affairs to bare. The men start to feel like dogs (some are proud of it) and the women feel used, like .... I don't have a moderate word for it. Examples of the free love crowd are on the mid day talk shows every day. The way they describe their lives is far from free and independant of the consideration and concerns of others and usually appears very tragic for the primary participants. You are very brave to pose this scenario on a religious forum. Have peace, brees