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To: Paul Engel who wrote (38263)10/6/1998 1:36:00 AM
From: Petz  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 1574616
 
Paul, here's my strategy for Intel to regain some lost ground. I'm sharing it with you, because I know Intel is too stubborn to change course and use it.
1. Immediately transfer nearly all wafer starts to the Celeron-A design (on chip 128K cache). Invent a new name for these chips, not Celeron or Celeron-A.
2. Switch to Socket 370 design much faster than January, 1999
3. Start selling 100 MHz bus versions of Celeron A in the 350, 400, 450 speed grades for $100 less than Pentium II prices
4. Release a Katmai 400 MHz in Socket 370 package in January of '99. This will be the low-end Katmai.
5. Match AMD pricing to Tier 1's MHz for MHz, sell any higher MHz chips for $500 or more.
6. On the corporate front, buy out 3DFx, bribe VIA by giving them a juicy Slot 1 license but not telling them that Intel will kill Slot 1 totally in 1/99.

Can an 800# gorilla dance?

Petz



To: Paul Engel who wrote (38263)10/6/1998 1:53:00 AM
From: Aaron Cooperband  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574616
 
Paul -

I just picked up my local computer shop's CPU pricing today and thought you might be interested. I've listed a few of their prices below.

Three things really struck me - that AMD's prices are about 50% of the equivalent INTC product, and that their prices are pretty close to Cyrix's prices with the same PR level, and that there is only a small price difference between the standard K6 and the K6 3D.

What ever happened to their pledge to sell for 25% less than Intel?

P-II 333 - $320
K6 3D 333 - $190

P-II 300 - $300
K6 3D 300 - $150
K6 300 - $140
Cyrix PR300 - $110

P-II 266 - $240
K6 3D 266 - $126
K6 266 - $120
Cyrix PR266 - $100

Aaron



To: Paul Engel who wrote (38263)10/6/1998 2:28:00 AM
From: Adrian Wu  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1574616
 
To all: Regarding the shortage of low end PII. I had the most incredible experience. I was asked to build a computer for my sister in law and I went to one of the local screwdriver shops to pick up some components including an MVP3 MB and a K6-2 333. I was tempted to "upgrade" my PII-266 machine to an overclocked Celeron A, but I have heard from many sources that the supply of Celeron 300A locally overclocks poorly. The shop owner told me that he has several Pentium II-450s that have been remarked as 300s. Yes, they were marked DOWN by Intel when there was a big shortage of 300s, but a pile of 450s were sitting in the warehouse in Malaysia. I didn't believe him but he promised to give my money back if that wasn't the case. So I bought the boxed product for US$210. I don't know whether pin B19 was shorted out to prevent the usage of the 100MHz setting, since I have an Asus P2B-LS board which allows for manual ext frequencing selection. In any case, the damn thing was multiplier-locked, which the old 0.35 micron PII-300s weren't. I set the bus speed to 100, and the multiplier to 3x, but the thing POSTed as 450! The BIOS also needed to be updated since it didn't recognize the chip, proving that the chip is new since my BIOs is dated 4/98. I ran Winbench98 without problems, and has been running the machine continously for 3 days without any problems. I used the original fan heatsink that came with it, and didn't even bother to change it to my Peltier unit. Conclusion: Intel must have been desperate to sell a $650 product for $210. BTW the version # is 716768-001. It's made in Malaysia. Try it if any of you can find one.

Adrian