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To: B.REVERE who wrote (55071)10/8/1998 9:33:00 PM
From: ViperChick Secret Agent 006.9  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 58727
 
something to watch

+GROUND ZERO (30892 )
From: +bearshark
Thursday, Oct 8 1998 6:06PM ET
Reply # of 30939

GZ:

I unloaded my puts at DJI -200 plus. When the treasury interest rates reversed and
went up it was saying that money was being made available for something. I was not
going to wait to find out what it was. I was also scared that the GreenRub boys were
going to surprise us tomorrow morning because of the 13-week treasuries. A profit
taken is always a profit.

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p (30902 )
From: +Andeveron
Thursday, Oct 8 1998 5:52PM ET
Reply # of 30939

>> I have to ask myself whether they reflect real underlying bullishness or are just plain
manipulation. <<

Looking at today's trading records, there was a gap at 3:46PM on the Dow where it
went from -90.62 at a tick of +12 to -47.11 at a tick of +295. This happened in less
than a half of a minute. I doubt if a tick of even +2000 would be able to pump the Dow
that much that quickly... I believe it was gargantuan futures manipulation to spike it up in
this manner. Saw it yesterday also.

>> A possible sign of weakness is that they no longer seem to be able to manipulate the
SP 500 atwill, just the Dow. <<

True, but all they have to do is pump the Dow up, the rest would move in tandem, albeit
at a slower pace. Buyers and traders need to see something positive; the Dow remains
the popular indicator for the market even if it is incredibly misleading. Someone looking
at tomorrow's paper will notice the mild decline, which tells nothing of the -250 point
drop intraday and the massive selling in the morning.

Based on today's action, I think we have a strong rally tomorrow. People are still too
eager to jump into stocks such as DELL and MSFT at what they deem to be bargain
prices. Last Friday was a knockout punch, however misleading, to the Bears. Think
we'll have deja vu...



To: B.REVERE who wrote (55071)10/9/1998 1:13:00 AM
From: AlanH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 58727
 
BR, thanks for the HOUSE text. <e>