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To: Spartex who wrote (23964)	10/14/1998 9:55:00 PM
From: ToySoldier	Respond to of 42771

I read the two postings on the dueling fool board. The first posting that stated NetWare is being pinched between NT and Unix has many serious flaws in the logic. He downplayed the limitations of NT that currently make NT a non-enterprise capable OS. Stability, up-time, immature Domain structure, lack of performance (he sort of mentioned that), etc. All indications are the NT5 will not do much to improve any of these limitations to any real extent. The poster is correct that Unix is a very good enterprise wide Application Server because of its large multi-user capabilities and mature system processes manipulation to allow extremely high up-time. But Unix is still an extremely complex OS to support and administer, relatively more costly than its NT or NW competitors (with the exception of the intel based Unix - and these Unix derivitives lose much of the Unix advantages listed above), and a non-intuitive file/print handler to Intel desktops (relative to NW and NT OS). Then the largest gap in his posting is in his logic behind the development fundamentals of NW. To compare NW to DOS (much less today's NW to DOS) is like comparing an airplane to a train. They are completely two different animals. In fact NT is substantially closer to DOS than NW ever was! So I dont have a clue where he came up with that logic. NW's pluses over NT and Unix were completely ignored by this poster. It has the highest performance of file/print and internet service serving than either of its competitors. It can load and unload several service and have services re-configured (i.e. LAN and Disk Drivers, TCP/IP, SNMP, etc.) without having to reboot the server (a huge limitation in NT). And finally, it uses a directory service that is by far the most scalable in the industry and that now resides on both of its competitor's platforms! Tell me of one Unix or NT directory service that can make that claim. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Therefor, the first poster really has a limited understanding of the NT NW Unix environment. He promoted Unix and promoted NT while downplaying their critical weaknesses. Yet he downplayed and even ignored NW's strengths and promoted NW's weaknesses. I wish that I could have this posting placed as a response but I do not have an ID on this board. Quad, you can post it for me if you have an ID. (response to posting 2 to follow) Toy

To: Spartex who wrote (23964)	10/14/1998 10:05:00 PM
From: ToySoldier	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42771

I didnt find the second posting you posted to have too much real content worth repsonding to. Satisfaction: thats like statistics - you can find whatever you want to see. The people calling him to convert from NW to NT are those that are naive and believe that they should be following what the trade press tells him/her to do. These individuals dont generally have a mind of their own and dont perform proper business requirements then compare that to the OS that can best deliver those requirements. Certification: Did he ever think that there is more books on the selves for NT because NT is more difficult to understand and keep running properly. Generally an irrelevant factor. Price: With the exception of small mom-pop operations, most companies dont or shouldnt look at purchase price as a major factor in picking an OS. That is by far the smallest cost that they will encounter. Selecting the wrong OS will hammer them hard in long-term operational costs which have the largest impact on TCO. And as for the price differential, as far as I remember, the price between similar NW and NT user licencing is extremely close. Not this wide gap that this poster identified. So I dont this posting as a poor posting. Toy