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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (10011)	10/18/1998 11:01:00 AM
From: pezz	Respond to of 67261

Excellent post Daniel pez

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (10011)	10/19/1998 1:12:00 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

>My understanding is that Western Europe has very few abortions. "very few" is too vague. Certainly there are more than 3 or 4 abortions per year in Europe. Some more specific, even rounded numbers would be desirable here, before we start examining what we want to imitate in Europe. > Western Europe also has a much more open and honest attitude about sex and birth control. That's not exactly where the people in the "pro-life" movement want to take us, is it?< Actually the Westen culture is far more saturated with sex. If you've been to Europe, you might notice. American culture and media is totally saturated with sex sex and more sex. It's an obsession. In Europe, they aren't obsessed with sex. There are some different attitudes though, but they aren't necessarily sex related. For example you will see female bathroom attendents in Europe. Similarly you will see female sauna attendents in the dressing room, where men are coming out of the sauna nude. But it's not a sexual thing, its a blase attitude towards nudity. Now in sex-drenched America, people wouldn't go for that (opposite-sex washroom attendents). Well the men might, but I wonder how many women would. jbe, Michelle? waddya say? :-) >The places with the most abortions are the (former) Soviet Union and Japan, where it ends up being used routinely for birth control. Nobody thinks abortion is a good method of birth control. But few in the "pro-life" movement seems much interested in promoting better methods either, except one.< I don't know what you are talking about here. "few are interested in promoting better methods, except one"? I can't speak on behalf of the Catholic Church or the pope, and I'm not Catholic, but I'm all for birth control, pre-conception. I'm not in favor of handing out condoms to school-age kids though. Killing babies is wrong. Anyone who would try to justify abortion because they heard that someone was opposed to some methods of birth control is simply grasping for excuses.