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To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (29757)	10/19/1998 5:17:00 PM
From: Silver__7	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

Hello World!

To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (29757)	10/19/1998 5:45:00 PM
From: E'Lane	Respond to of 50264

Jane, You were pleasant enough...don't worry about it. I don't understand the necessity you seem to feel to "name call" and accuse, but you were as pleasant as I would expect from you. My response to Aya was an offer of DD...when it is verified. If the dd group that Laz has been talking about puts out something that is just old news with no verification, there will be some people, hard as it is to imagine, who will attack our information. Therefore, the emails, faxes & phone calls before posting anything is necessary. It is amazing how much has been offered to us from this company and others listed in past PR's. Everyone we have contacted has been extremely "shareholder friendly". Some are just people in different offices who have given us public information not caring whether we are share holders or not, others are from the company. Now, why you can't get thru to Cheryl is beyond me. She has been more than accommadating to those I know of who have called her. Roger has been equally accessible. I don't think I told anyone to do their own DD. Nope, not at all. In fact, I have been taking quite a bit of heat lately for my stance that any information this group comes up with be posted to the threads. So don't pin that on me. I have ridden on enough "coat tails" DD wise that I couldn't make that suggestion to anyone else. I was merely replying that his comment that no one is doing any DD was not entirely correct. Now, when someone from our dd group does post information here, I hope you and Aya and others who have had strong negative feelings towards the longs, DD and DGIV in general will admit that possibly you were a little unfair with your judgements. If nothing else...we prove that we are digging into the facts and we are perfectly willing to post our findings. All in all...your post was pretty "off base". I think your arguments arose before you actually comprehended what I was saying. Why not go re-read my post and see if it wasn't just a bit nicer than you accuse. I hope you found that bathing suit and I hope your swim was refreshing. As for the answers everyone wants, if the time frame we are going by isn't giving you satisfaction...sorry! E'Lane...knowing I remained pleasant. btw...Jane...you are welcome to add whatever information it was that brought you back to DGIV at anytime, or you can just reference the post where you gave your reasons as I am sure you didn't come back without some kind of positive information. I'd really like to read it. It might even answer some of the questions I have been looking for. All in the line of channeling communications to the rest of us here. Thanks!

To: Jane4IceCream who wrote (29757)	10/19/1998 5:46:00 PM
From: Lazarus Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50264

Good Afternoon Jane, If I might just interject... >>How do you suppose to attract new investors by not sharing information about DGIV? I know, I know...."do your "own" research. << Jane, the group doing all that digging that E'Lane was referring to has no purpose but to unearth the truth. The facts that we uncover will be shared with all. In truth, we do have a few things, IMO, that need posting. The problem is that we want to be very careful that we are posting things that can be verified from other sources. Information from the company is used only to produce leads or things to look at. Currently, the only thing that is keeping the information from being posted are some logistical issues that need to be worked through and as well, folks want to feel comfortable that the things they are posting are not dubious in nature. >>I know, I know...."do your "own" research.<< That is NOT the battle cry of this group. You are just as welcome as the next person to see what we have come up with. There are no secret mailing lists... just the mailing lists that allow us to operate as a group. Sure, we email a lot of things and we see some of the rumors, but we use the rumors again, as a tool for our dd - what bears looking into... what should be looked into. We have agreed as a group to not post rumors. In fact, we are very reliant on the dd that each does. To "do your own research" and not use someone else's would prove to be prohibitive in both time and money. >>Sure. The problem is, the company and their PR doesnt return telephone calls, emails, and faxes. Not very shareholder freindly in my book. I know, I've tried recently.<< IMO, this is not surprising in the light of recent occurrences. Additionally, they have hired a lawyer to look over any PR's that they intend to publish. That lawyer has pretty much put a gag over the company's collective mouths. Is that good or bad? I don't really know. I see both sides of that particular issue... I do know that the company acted very irresponsibly in the past with the information that they handed out, so I suspect I lean toward a good interpretation of that particular circumstance. We have found that the company is willing to answer questions, but the type of questions that they will answer now is extremely limited. To wrap it up (and paraphrase MarkC): one of the good things that characterized this thread a while back was the sharing of our dd. I agree with him. I hope that we can bring that back... Lazarus