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To: engineer who wrote (16803)10/20/1998 12:59:00 PM
From: marginmike  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
know you sometimes post over on techstocks (SI). Could you please
copy this over there. Some of those guys are totally off on WLL:

Normal mobile cell can have from 1-6 sectors, only 22 calls per sector
(this goes for Qualcomms 3508i and 3519i)

Normal WLL cells are exactly the same physically, but can have up to 64
calls per sector

Mixed environments can have 48 calls per sector on average.

Why the difference? WLL has no near far problem, no power control
issues, nor does it have roaming issues or handoff issues. The removal of
these obstacles increases available bandwidth for call transmission.

Thanks for the messenger service to Margin or anyone who can copy this
over to SI to help remove some crazy notions.

One addition, There is no limit of the numbr of cells used in a high density
area, but less are required than you might think. All depends on how
much call blocking the local population will tolerate.

Q



To: engineer who wrote (16803)10/21/1998 5:49:00 AM
From: Rajala  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
CDMA1 appears to be massively wastefull??? To all, from "Q":

>Normal mobile cell can have from 1-6 sectors, only 22 calls per
>sector (this goes for Qualcomms 3508i and 3519i)
>
>Normal WLL cells are exactly the same physically, but can have
>up to 64 calls per sector
>...
>Why the difference? WLL has no near far problem, no power
>control issues, nor does it have roaming issues or handoff
>issues. The removal of these obstacles increases available
>bandwidth for call transmission.

OK so now we have the CDMA side of the story. If this is to be believed looks like traffic capacity is tripling when part of the signalling is left out (!). I'm very curious why GSM uses between 1/8 and 1/16 of the air channel capacity on signalling and, according to this, CDMA needs more than 2/3.

>
>One addition, There is no limit of the numbr of cells used in
>a high density area, but less are required than you might
>think. All depends on how much call blocking the local population
>will tolerate.

This is what I also believe. If such a foolish move as to build a WLL network is done the capacity would not be too much of a concern.

(From engineer):
>when you (Rajala) publish the shortcomings of GSM, it would be nice
>to differentiate between GSM problems as you have been explaining
>and CDMA features which I find you know nothing about.

Why the blood pressure, engineer? I find this discussion exteremly usefull. I did not know that CDMA1 wastes _most_ of the capacity on signalling. Although I still wonder why it could be possible and if it really is true. I have heard noise about the CDMA1 capacity being lower than expected, would here be an answer? Just wondering.

- rajala