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Technology Stocks : Asyst Technologies (ASYT) Good Value/Where is the Bottom? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Michael Burry who wrote (1135)10/21/1998 5:44:00 PM
From: the hube  Respond to of 2313
 
Here's how I see it:

Current market cap should now be about 11.2 million shares @ $8.50 per share, or $95 million. Subtracting the cash of $48 million leaves $47 million for the net non-cash assets less payables. They paid $23 million for Hine Design (cash plus payables assumed).

If the stock price falls by $2, ASYT will be valued at approximately what they paid for Hine last June. With a burn rate of about $1.5 million per month, it doesn't look like they will run out of cash any time soon.

Bottom line is if it drops on the announcement, I may just have to buy more.

John



To: Michael Burry who wrote (1135)10/21/1998 6:01:00 PM
From: advinfo  Respond to of 2313
 
Good Post Mike...I was also encouraged by the rapid acceptance/deployment of the SMART-Station and the marketing focus on existing fab upgrades.

I can't wait to hear the CC. The earnings release alone gave me
the impression that during this trough in the cycle, Asyst's
savvy management is on a mission to maximize strength and efficiency.

Good point about the book value impact from the buy back. The
11 million dollars spent(a VERY BULLISH action IMO) must have
taken quite a few shares out of the already modest float.

Long ASYT,
NorthStar



To: Michael Burry who wrote (1135)10/21/1998 6:03:00 PM
From: Gary Burton  Respond to of 2313
 
Hello Mike--good to hear from you again (aplx thread last year). I enjoy your web site.---re ASYT--1) the street is in a buying mood on depressed small caps at the moment. A lot of buyers waiting for the bad numbers before stepping in. The 'consensus' is that the seq's have seen their lows. So, stocks like COHU which surprised with a horrible qtr----AYST's was not really a 'surprise'-- bounced back to where they were before the surprise. LRCX refuses to revisit its low and then gets upgraded somewhat after a terrible qtr because the BTB suggested a turn in back end bookings. --2) ASYT laid off 23% of its workforce so its operating loss is worse than expected by analysts--revenue was actually $16 vs the 13-15 range forecasted last month. Their break even point is therefore likely close to the now depressed $16mm so that the Dec qtr cash operating loss may be much less than the $4 in Q3 ---3)For some reason, they paid for Hine entirely in cash so that the previously announced $10mm LTD portion was not incurred. Cleaner that way--no debt whatsoever now.---4) Net Net Working Capital (Cash+AR+Inv less ALL liabilities) is now $5.18. To that one can add another $1.53 in "prepaid expenses and other current assets" if one is so inclined as it forms part of accounting W/C. So, we have approx $7 in a liquid state at close to the bottom of the cycle. Contrast that with LRCX( now trading at $12 after today's upgrade) which is still incurring significant losses and has a LTD payment to face in 5 years such that its Net NET WC is only about $4.50.---One gets the idea here.---Bottom line, subject to the CC this evening-- I don' t think the stock will sell off materially even after the bump to $8.50. Too many people sense a turn is coming. I wouldn't be surprised if it closes higher tomorrow.



To: Michael Burry who wrote (1135)10/21/1998 6:31:00 PM
From: Zach E.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2313
 

Hi Mike,

I agree that things could have been worse. Two things struck me as
being bad on this report, though. Gross margins seemed low, and
the # of outstanding shares didn't change much year-over-year
despite the buyback. Any thoughts?

Another question I have is, does anyone know what the final outcome
of the options portion of the shareholder's meeting?

Zach