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To: Ruffian who wrote (16958)10/22/1998 3:43:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 152472
 
From Ericy report:
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"Ericsson has received word that the United States Patent and
Trademark Office has validated a total of 36 new and amended claims in
one of Ericsson's key patents on 'soft handoff', an Ericsson invention
that is essential to the practice of U.S. wireless telecommunications
standard IS- 95.

Over the past three months the U.S. Patent Office has allowed
three such Ericsson patents. The successful reissue of these three
patents confirms that Ericsson is the true inventor of the 'soft
handoff' and 'macrodiversity' concepts that are fundamental to IS-95."
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They are going for broke. The June 1989 patent is pretty easy to read. Like analogue systems for years before, you have to hand the call off to another station. So they don't get to patent the concept of shifting the transaction from one base station to another. They are claiming a patent on a method. One single method. Not the concept of checking signal strengths etc and swapping to the stronger one.

The details of the method is what matters. They are referring to a single channel swap - so that if an adjacent cellsite has the same channel free, the cellphone can use that one. I suppose that gives a smoother handover, with less snap crackle and pop, dead time and dropped calls.

The mechanism, which is what a patent describes, is completely different for cdmaOne. All warm fuzzies, across the whole bandwidth. No nasty channel switching and dead time with snap crackle pop followed by a dropped call. Software cunningly measures a few decibels then the handset is smoothly sailing in the new zone, with a friendly wave goodbye from Babe.

Ericy, to use an analogy, is trying to claim the concept of an engine. "A method to propel an object. This method, using pistons, steam and coal is designed to blah blah blah."

Oh, oh looks like we can forget about inventing a diesel engine. No Otto cycles. No rotary engines or two strokes. No gas turbines. No fuel cells and electric motors. Oh, maybe fuel cells are okay if they don't use fossil fuels.

Having become an expert since reading the discussions here, it seems that Ericy is staking their future on this patent dispute. And they don't have a leg to stand on. I'm such an expert now that I think I'll go sit some bar exams.

Funny that the patent office would award QUALCOMM patents on handoff too, when they had just issued what Ericy claims is the same thing just a few months before.

Ericy 'has received word'. What does that mean? A whisper on the grapevine or the real deal - hardcopy pieces of Patent Office wax sealed parchment. In any event, these reissues seem to be just a bundling of existing stuff related to TDMA so that it is all in one parchment, not any approval or acknowledgement that 'hey, you guys really invented cdma in mobile'. Maybe they have managed to hook the magic words 'cdma' 'soft handoff' 'power control' 'near far problem' into their TDMA claims. That wouldn't be hard, and could fool some people on a jury [if that's how these things are handled] into thinking that it does sorta sound the same as what QUALCOMM is doing.

"Can we see those two sticks in the bathtub again please your honor".

"If it don't fit, you must acquit!"

"Looks like waves to me Martha. What about you Fred? Yeah - sho' 'nuff, that's one of them thar cellfone critter"

Mqurice



To: Ruffian who wrote (16958)10/22/1998 3:46:00 PM
From: bananawind  Respond to of 152472
 
Further to Michael's post, check out:

patents.ibm.com

US5640414: Mobile station assisted soft handoff in a CDMA
cellular communications system

Inventor(s):
Blakeney, II; Robert D., San Diego, CA
Karmi; Gadi, San Diego, CA
Tiedemann, Jr.; Edward G., San Diego, CA
Weaver, Jr.; Lindsay A., San Diego, CA
Applicant(s):
QUALCOMM Incorporated, San Diego, CA

Publication Date:
June 17, 1997

Application Date:
April 11, 1994
Application Number:
US1994000226222

IPC Class (Ed. 6):

H04K 001/10;

US Class:

375/200; 379/059; 379/060; 455/033; 455/034; 380/034;

Field of Search:
455-33,34,56 ; 380-034 ; 370-18,21,22 ; 375-1,68 ; 379-60,59 ;

Abstract: In a code division multiple access (CDMA) spread spectrum cellular communication
system in which a mobile station user communicates with another system user via at least one base
station, wherein each base station transmits a common pilot signal of a different code phase with
respect to other base stations in said system, a method for directing communications between said
mobile station user and said base stations. The mobile station monitors the signal strength of pilots
and reports the measured signal strength to a system controller via the base station through which it
is communicating. Command messages from the system controller to a new base station and the
mobiles station establishes communication through the new base station in addition to the
communication through the current base station. When the mobile station detects the falling below a
predetermined level of the signal strength of a pilot corresponding to at least one of the base stations
through which the mobile station is communicating, the mobile station reports the measured signal
strength indicative of the corresponding base station to the system controller via the base stations
through which it is communicating. Command messages from the system controller to the identified
base station and the mobiles station terminates communication through the corresponding base
station while communications through the other base station or base stations continue.

Exemplary Claim(s): Show all 15 claims

We claim:
1. In a cellular communication system in which a mobile user communicates with other users via
at least one base station, wherein each of a plurality of base stations within said system transmits a
unique pilot signal, a mobile station transceiver comprising:

a pilot signal strength measurement circuit for measuring strength of base station transmitted
pilot signals and for generating a first signal strength message when one or more of said
measured pilot signals, from base stations not currently in communication with said mobile
station transceiver, exceed a first predetermined level;
a mobile station transmitter for transmitting said first signal strength message to at least one of
said base stations with which said mobile user is currently in communication; and
a mobile station receiver for receiving a first direction signal from at least one of said base
stations with which said mobile user is currently in communication;
wherein in response to said first received direction signal communication is established
between said mobile station transceiver and at least one of said base stations from which
were received said measured pilot signals exceeding said first predetermined level.

This is a continuation of Ser. No. 08/134,356 filed Oct. 8, 1993, now abandoned which is a
continuation of application Ser. No. 07/847,148 filed Mar. 5, 1992 now issued as U.S. Pat. No.
5,267,261.



To: Ruffian who wrote (16958)10/22/1998 3:52:00 PM
From: bananawind  Respond to of 152472
 
And then going back to the 261 patent:

patents.ibm.com

US5267261: Mobile station assisted soft handoff in a CDMA
cellular communications system

Inventor(s):
Blakeney, II; Robert D., San Diego, CA
Karmi; Gadi, San Diego, CA
Tiedemann, Jr.; Edward G., San Diego, CA
Weaver, Jr.; Lindsay A., San Diego, CA
Applicant(s):
Qualcomm Incorporated, San Diego, CA

Publication Date:
Nov. 30, 1993

Application Date:
March 5, 1992
Application Number:
US1992000847148

IPC Class (Ed. 5):

H04K 001/00;

US Class:

375/001; 455/033.1; 455/034.1; 455/056.1; 455/034.2; 379/060;

Field of Search:
379-060 ; 375-001 ; 455-33,34,56 ;

Abstract: In a code division multiple access (CDMA) spread spectrum cellular communication
system in which a mobile station user communicates with another system user via at least one base
station, wherein each base station transmits a common pilot signal of a different code phase with
respect to other base stations in said system, a method for directing communications between said
mobile station user and said base stations. The mobile station monitors the signal strength of pilots
and reports the measured signal strength to a system controller via the base station through which it
is communicating. Command messages from the system controller to a new base station and the
mobiles station establishes communication through the new base station in addition to the
communication through the current base station. When the mobile station detects the falling below a
predetermined level of the signal strength of a pilot corresponding to at least one of the base stations
through which the mobile station is communicating, the mobile station reports the measured signal
strength indicative of the corresponding base station to the system controller via the base stations
through which it is communicating. Command messages from the system controller to the identified
base station and the mobiles station terminates communication through the corresponding base
station while communications through the other base station or base stations continue.

We claim:
1. In a code division multiple access (CDMA) spread spectrum cellular communication system in
which a mobile station user communicates with another system user via at least one base station,
wherein each base station transmits a common pilot signal of a different code phase with respect to
other base stations in said system, a method for directing communications between said mobile
station user and said base stations comprising the steps of:

measuring at a mobile station signal strength of base station transmitted pilot signals;
communicating a signal strength message, from said mobile station via at least one base
station said mobile station is in communication with, when at least one measured pilot signal
each corresponding to a base station to which said mobile station is not currently in
communication with, exceeds a first predetermined level;
communicating, from at least one of said base stations said mobile station is in communication
with and each base station corresponding to said mobile station measured pilot signal
exceeding said first predetermined level, a direction message; and
establishing, at said mobile station in response to said direction message, communications
through each base station corresponding to said mobile station measured pilot signal
exceeding said first predetermined level.



To: Ruffian who wrote (16958)10/22/1998 3:57:00 PM
From: bananawind  Respond to of 152472
 
and finally the 501 patent:

patents.ibm.com

US5101501: Method and system for providing a soft handoff
in communications in a CDMA cellular telephone system

Inventor(s):
Gilhousen; Klein S., San Diego, CA
Padovani; Roberto, San Diego, CA
Wheatley, III; Charles E., Del Mar, CA
Applicant(s):
Qualcomm Incorporated, San Diego, CA

Publication Date:
March 31, 1992

Application Date:
Nov. 7, 1989
Application Number:
US1989000433030

IPC Class (Ed. 5):

H04Q 007/00; H04M 011/00;

US Class:

455/033; 455/034; 455/056; 379/060; 375/001;

Field of Search:
455-17,32-34,54,56,67 ; 379-59,60,63 ; 375-001 ;

Abstract: In a cellular telephone system a system for directing communications between a mobile
user and cell-sites as a mobile user changes cell-site service areas. The mobile user includes an
apparatus for, while in communication with another system user via one cell-site, determining a
transition of the mobile user from the cell-site service area to the service area of another cell-site.
The system includes circuitry responsive to the indication for coupling communications between the
mobile user and the other system user via the new cell-site while the mobile user also remains in
communication with the system user via the first cell-site. The system further includes apparatus
responsive to the coupling of the communications between the mobile user and the other system
user via the new cell-site for terminating the communications between the mobile user and another
system user via cell-site with communications continuing between the mobile user and the system
user via the new cell-site.

Exemplary Claim(s): Show all 23 claims

We claim:
1. In a cellular telephone system in which a mobile system user and another system user
communicate user information signals therebetween via at least one of a plurality of geographically
separated cell-sites each defining a respective geographic service area, a system for directing
communications between said mobile system user and said another system user via said at least one
of said plurality of cell-sites as said mobile system user changes cell-site service areas, comprising:

means for, while said mobile system user is in a service area of one cell-site and
communicating user information signals with said another system user via said one cell-site,
determining a transition of said mobile system user from said one cell-site service area to a
service area of another cell-site, and for providing a handoff request identifying said another
cell-site;
means responsive to said handoff request for coupling a communication of said user
information signals between said mobile system user and said another system user via said
another cell-site while said mobile system user and said another system user continue in
communication of said user information signals via said one cell-site such that said mobile
system user and said another system user concurrently communicate said user information
signals through said one cell-site and said another cell-site; and
means responsive to said coupling of communication of said user information signals between
said mobile system user and said another system user via said another cell-site for terminating
said communication of said user information signals between said mobile system user and said
another system user via said one cell-site with said communication of said user information
signals continuing between said mobile system user and said another system user via said
another cell-site.



To: Ruffian who wrote (16958)10/23/1998 1:16:00 AM
From: Asterisk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
I am not an authority on patents and I have not studied this thing in depth but I think that one of the later posts hit the problem on the head exactly. The Ericcsson patent very clearly and specifically states that it relates to base station handoffs. Aren't most if not all handoffs in IS-95 mobile assisted?