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To: jach who wrote (18376)10/22/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: jach  Respond to of 77397
 
Layer 3 vendors debate

By Adam Gaffin
Network World Fusion, 10/22/98

Atlanta - Switching vendors took potshots at each
other and debated the nature of Layer 3 in a
showdown today at NetWorld+Interop.

The debate, sponsored by Network
World, pitted seven vendors against each
other: Nortel (Bay), Cabletron, Cisco,
Extreme, Foundry and Packet Engines.

"It's clearly fashionable these days to call anything
that's fast a Layer 3 switch,'' said Cisco's Jayshree
Ullal. She declared: "Contrary to public belief, neither
am I a gorilla nor do I weigh 800 pounds.''

Questions to Cisco and other vendors, however,
often focused on their marketing claims, in particular
about packet throughput and backplane speed.

Ullal acknowledged the Catalyst 8500 is more
expensive than other Layer 3 switches, but said it has
more functions and services. She said the Catalyst
2926 is more directly comparable to other switches
on the market, in the $500 to $600/port range.

Ullal asked P.G. Menon of Cabletron to explain "the
contradiction" in a product lineup that includes both
virtual LAN and Layer 3 products." Menon said there
is no contradiction. While acknowledging that
VLANs were oversold in the past, he said there is still
a place for them - to support legacy protocols, such
as IPX. He said users building new networks should
ask themselves whether it makes more sense to go
with straight Level 3.

Nortel's Basil Alwan said the Cisco 8500 was an
excellent product, but asked Ullal to explain why it
didn't support access control lists (ACL) without an
add-on card.

"Lies, half-truths, what can I say?'' she responded.
She said the 8500 does support ACLs via IOS
software, but that Cisco sells an add-on to bring ACL
processing up to wire speed. She said nobody's
routers currently support wire-speed ACL processing
natively.

"Ours do,'' Alwan said of the Accelar line.



To: jach who wrote (18376)10/22/1998 10:20:00 PM
From: jach  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 77397
 
Another FORE's pearl

data.com

CSCO does not even come close enough



To: jach who wrote (18376)10/23/1998 12:20:00 AM
From: The Phoenix  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 77397
 
Jach...mr. selective memory.

Let me refer you to your post..

Message 5790763

FORE was trading at 18.45 when you said buy (along with COMS, ASND and CS). COMS is doing well due to takeover spec...and of course FORE is up today on the same. However FORE is still $3.39 off from when you originally said to buy it.

What a dillweed you are.

BTW: I was right - it's dark tonight!!!

Message 6119630

My prediction: Tonight it's going to get really dark. We'll need to use lights to see in the
house or when we drive.

I'm a guru!!! I can tell the future too!!!

OG