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To: PROLIFE who wrote (11060)	10/24/1998 12:39:00 PM
From: jbe	Respond to of 67261

You missed the point, DCF. You should have traced this "death is death" exchange back to the beginning.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (11060)	10/24/1998 12:42:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

89% of abortions are at 12 weeks or less. You wouldn't happen to be an absolutist on the matter, would you DCF? I wouldn't want to use you as an example of the furthest fringe for fear-mongering purposes. Do you agree with mrknowitall and I that improved birth control would reduce the number of abortions? There's also statistical evidence to support this. In fact, the number of abortions has already fallen by 50% from its peak. I imagine it'll continue to fall, as long the contraceptive use continues to improve. Something we should all be happy for.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (11060)	10/24/1998 1:18:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

More on "Death is Death" To elaborate, DCF. There has been much talk on this thread of the murder of unborn babies (i.e., abortion). This particular discussion began when E7 suggested that abortion opponents, logically, ought also to oppose capital punishment. In other words, Death is Death = Murder is Murder. As a matter of fact, some pro-lifers I know do oppose capital punishment. However, the answer E7 received was that the two cannot be compared; that abortion is the murder of innocents, whereas capital punishment is the execution of the guilty. (Parenthetically, I should point out here that some death penalty opponents argue that in fact, innocent people are often executed, but their innocence is not established until it is too late to for a pardon. Hence, they prefer life sentences, which at least make it possible to correct any judicial mistake that may have been made.) In any event, the "death is death" (properly speaking, "murder is murder") exchange proceeded from the above. Part of the problem here, as I see it, is that some champions of the unborn give the impression that they have very little "milk of human kindness" left over for anyone else. What are your own feelings on the subject? jbe