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To: Paul Engel who wrote (40255)	10/28/1998 8:51:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1573134

Paul- RE:"Business/engineering applications - Celeron's FAST pipelined FPU will be as much as 2x faster than a K6-2. If you use a lot of business applications - spreadsheets, databases, graphics (not games), the Celeron will be much better." First of all, I am surprised you gave a non-biased response on points 1, 2 and 3. Point 4, on the other hand, while not false, isn't correctly categorized. You can't really combine business and engineering apps aimed computers into one category. Companies which purchase computers to run business apps usually don't need the most powerful PC available, and can do just fine with a K6-2 or Celeron A. In business apps, when running Win 9X, the K6-2 and Celeron A are equal. Win NT is a different story. On that platform the Celeron A is faster than a K6-2. This is one of the reasons why the K6-3 is coming out. Although it won't compete with the Celeron A, its extra cache will enable it to speed up NT quite a bit. Companies which purchase computers to run engineering apps usually need a really powerful computer to crunch the data. The K6-2 and Celeron A would not be used here. PII's are used almost exclusively in this arena. Engineering apps thrive on a pipelined FPU, and although the Celeron A would beat out a K6-2, a PII is better suited because of its extra L2 cache.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (40255)	10/29/1998 11:46:00 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573134

Hi Paul, Thanks for the informative post on the K6-2 vs. Mendocino Celeron. It is appreciated. Looking at the SI thread in general, it looks as if AMD's best response to the future introduction of KNI supported Intel chips is to flood the market with as many K6-2 (3D-NOW) chips as possible, at a low price, to gain maximum market share. It's not really a good thing for the average AMD investor, like myself, for AMD to get into a maximum fracas with Intel, but it looks as if there is no alternative. AMD needs current and future support for 3D-NOW from the software vendors. Large market share is the only way to get the required support. We have AMD and INTC on divergent, non compatible technologies. Marketing will have a major role to play. Intel has many $B sitting in the bank. Even if AMD had a “superior” technology, the correct marketing strategy by Intel could unhinge any advantage. I see that INTEL is going to use Homer Simpson as the Pentium II marketing vehicle. It's a double edged sword as far as I can tell. A master stroke or almighty “DOHHHH” type of blunder? The “Simpsons” never were kind to institutions (e.g. the nuclear power industry) or “the rules”. The news does not encourage me to buy their stock... I wonder what this will do to the Simpsons TV ratings??? I'll be holding on to my AMD stock for a while, waiting to see what happens next:-) Intel is looking good, but not good enough for me to buy Intel stock yet. I'll be reviewing them over the next six months. I have many questions. Finally, Intel seems to be able to piss off enough PC customers for at least one, probably more, AMD sized (and growing) competitors to exist. regards, Pearly.