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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11596)	10/29/1998 1:33:00 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

The solution to our crumbling schools is phasing out govm't schools in favor of a thriving, for profit, private school system. Now shut up about shutting up. BTW, this issue seems to have incredible resonate in the Afr-Am community. Conservative strategists should latch on this as a positive way to lure them off the Democrat plantation.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11596)	10/29/1998 1:34:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<You on the other hand offer no solutions at all.>> Sounds like a challenge. Ok: 1) School chartering is a system where community members can petition the local district to use the funds that would otherwise go into building another clone school and use it for an innovative school that community members support. It involves some waving of regs. Examples are: back to basics, accelerated, High tech functional curriculum, and many more. It is public open enrollment and based on community choice. 2) Another system is the voucher system. 3) Privatization of public schools is another solution. That is where the community takes a stronger hand in the leadership and management decisions of a public school. So, it stays public, but is directed like a private school. There are zillions of other proposed solutions. The teacher lobbies supporting BC don't want us to know about them let alone consider them. Nobody is "against" smaller class sizes. It is the attempt to throw it out as "the solution" so that discussion of solutions is killed that I object to. Its like saying "we want peace." Who doesn't. One solution is to nuke all our our enemies so there can be no war waged against us. If it were the only possible course that we could consider, BOMBS AWAY.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11596)	10/29/1998 1:41:00 PM
From: mrknowitall	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Michelle - I can't let you get away with that. The problems you describe are as a result of decades of Democratic and liberalist ideas being rammed down the throats of state and local governments. It will take more decades to fix the mess. It truly is like cooking a frog - drop it in hot water and it's outta there, but put it in cool water and then gradually bring the water to a boil and you'll have a cooked frog. Well, dammit, now the water is getting pretty hot and you want them to make the decision about turning the knob on the heat? "Public" education has become "government" education, and look where it has gotten us -- asking these idiots to do more of it to us. The reason teachers are so underpaid is that they have leadership that defends a system that is hopelessly tied to squandering money on continuing and defending the status quo. It is the archaic "system" that has to bludgeon everyone into conformity with liberalist social thought in order to preserve its very existence. It is an endless loop - something you as a software engineer should recognize: 001 Take more money from taxpayers 002 Spend money for administrative bureaucracy and "programs" 003 Pay teachers if there is anything left 004 Students somehow fail to succeed at learning 005 Try to inculcate mediocrity and lower "norms" 005 Run out of money 005 Ask for more money as a fix 006 Goto 001 You apparently run your own business; if one or more of your employees are unable to achieve results, what do you do? Do you lower your expectations? Is lowering the common denominator a rational approach to business? To life? That's the answer from the left - lower the standards so everyone "feels good about themselves." Most parents are fearful for the future of their children in that environment, and rightfully so. But heaven forbid we bring up an idea that there may be a better way. I dare not mention any ideas - academia and its children, the liberals in the media, are sure to quickly demonize anyone who wants to do something other than turn the crank on the Democratic voter-generator that is education today. Rant over. Mr. K.