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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (12195)11/2/1998 2:19:00 AM
From: greenspirit  Respond to of 67261
 
Dwight, forget honesty, integrity, courage, fair treatment and valor. The new character trait most sought by the liberal media and Democrats is "spinmeistering".

Definition....The act of obfuscating the truth so that any policies or behaviors are viewed as just and right.

I wonder if the Oxford dictionary will pick up on this one. :-)

Michael



To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (12195)11/2/1998 9:00:00 AM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 67261
 
An extreme example:

WSJ:

In Colorado, Henry Strauss, a Democratic candidate for Congress, has unleashed a vicious TV ad linking Republican opponent Tom Tancredo to "a militia linked to white supremacists and the racist Aryan Nation." The ad features a still photo of Mr. Tancredo in a parade with his hand in an upraised salute. The Rocky Mountain News called the ad "a smear" and noted that Mr. Tancredo had given an unremarkable speech to an apparent militia group in 1994. It editorialized that if Mr. Strauss really believed his ad "then he is one of the silliest men in America. And if he doesn't believe it, he is one of the most cynical."




To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (12195)11/2/1998 10:42:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Dwight, to repeat, you don't know the first thing about personal insults. You and Vaughn, going off whining to the site admin. I have to admit, I have had rational exchanges in the past with you, amid the "Clinton is Caligula" clutter. Not with Vaughn, though.

I've been called thin skinned, or "thin lipped", and I admit to having been worn down here. A little bit of turnaround is beyond the pale though, isn't it? The whine of "hypocrite" is heard far and wide.

On the PBA thing you're so relentless in flogging, I will go back to my favorite source for a quote and some statistics. From agi-usa.org

In the spring of 1995, a new issue arose in the bitter abortion debate that has divided Americans for 25 years. It was the use in some instances of a procedure to terminate late-term pregnancies known as intact dilatation and extraction, or D&X. Abortion opponents dubbed the procedure "partial-birth abortion."

The terminology didn't even exist till 1995, and it was obviously chosen for political purposes. The line has been pressed here that the procedure was somehow invented to make sure the fetus was dead before it came out. Somehow, I doubt that, given the following statistics:

Table 2. Fetal Deaths, 1992
Gestational age Number
20­23 weeks 8,152
24­27 weeks 4,567
28­31 weeks 3,635
32­35 weeks 4,107


Those are sad statistics indeed, and have nothing to do with abortions. Something has to be done in those instances, D&E is better that a C-section in terms of the mother's health and recovery. Better prenatal care could probably reduce fetal death after 24 weeks much more than a "PBA" ban, the total number of abortions after 24 weeks in 1992 was 1170. Somehow, better prenatal care doesn't seem to be much of a priority for the "right to life" crowd, at least compared to the PBA issue of the day.

Apologies to all for engaging in "fear-mongering" on this issue. I'm sorry for polluting the thought of those who are certain of their position on the "heinous evil that is abortion". Moderate though they may be.



To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (12195)11/2/1998 12:05:00 PM
From: Bill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Yes, Dwight, the vocabulary used as leftist mantra is quite consistent.

But I think it's caused by paranoia. Imagine those idiots thinking any one of us cares enough to report them to SI police. Made for a nice diversion topic this weekend for the defeated leftists though.