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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12292)	11/2/1998 1:47:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

<<the problem with your argument is that you provide no means for determining who is a good mom. >> Agreed. I only objected to the comment that any woman can be a good mom. Your implication being that a career woman equals the "any woman" plus, what ever the career is. This is very a materialistic and exploitive idea. <<...not home for months at a time ...vs a stay at home mom ...>> I still don't see a problem with the argument that being able to make a baby does not make someone a good mom. Definitely being unavailable and uninvolved for months at a time does not make a good mom. It doesn't matter if the person is flying to Mars or living in a crack house, neither is being a mom to the baby they made. One may be wealthy (and either of these examples could be wealthy) and providing expensive day care or residential services, while the baby of the other is cared for in a state funded services. So is wealth the measure of a good mom in your scenario? You are filtering the discussion through astronaut training vs no career at all. The implication is that one of these has a baring on whether or not someone is a "good" mom. I am also interested in seeing the list of characteristics Mr. K hopefully presents to qualify the term "good mom." I expect involvement to be high on the list and wealth to be ranked fairly low.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12292)	11/2/1998 1:53:00 PM
From: mrknowitall	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Michelle - we don't know enough from that to determine who would be the best mom, nor is it appropriate to make a "value" judgement about the relative worth of either woman's life based upon a career choice. I think the measure of a mom comes later in her life, not just at the beginning of building a family. It's a work-in-progress that really never ends. The rationale of trying to compare the two cases you mention is faulty; why? Because we do not know the long-term "worth" of either woman's career yet. A career as an astronaut (Sally Ride, I believe is the woman you were referring to) is an interesting choice, but who is to say that the woman who decided to raise children didn't bring the next Linus Pauling, Bucky Fuller, Garrison Keillor or Mozart into the world? Mr. K.