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To: ahhaha who wrote (5407)	11/10/1998 2:56:00 PM
From: jpmattia	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12623

* OT SilkRoad * << The invention takes the dynamic and manipulates it into a better form than was previously available.>> Are they really claiming this? Claiming improved solutions to Maxwell's equations (formulated either by forms or more common differential equations) would be an extreme claim, considering that the equations are well over a hundred years old. Claiming to have already produced a marketable component while keeping the new solutions a secret would be a taller claim still. << The new idea is that you don't mix and laze.>> Are you sure about this claim? Every conventional modulator already separates the lasing from the mixing.

To: ahhaha who wrote (5407)	11/10/1998 4:19:00 PM
From: Ploni	Respond to of 12623

Off-topic: SilkRoad Stuff There's no point in attempting to criticize what you don't understand. I wasn't criticizing SilkRoad's alleged technology, but the hype coming from the company and you, on the Ciena thread. You can start reading my comments on the Silk Road thread. You are looking for authority to "ok" something. You trust some mathematicians and scientists but not others. Whom should I trust? A founder of a start-up company, not yet public, with no SEC reporting requirements, who has a huge financial interest in bringing his company public and selling stock? Your selection criteria depends upon who tells you is a worthy scientist. Are you an independent mathematician or scientist? Dr. Ahhaha doesn't ring any bells. Apart from your anonymity, I also don't know if you are independent, as it's possible that you have a financial interest in SilkRoad. So you're dependent upon another less knowledgeable individual. In most cases this chain of command ends with the latrine orderly of the NYSE. I think the idea is that people hope to find someone who is more knowledgeable, and benefit from his or her wisdom. However, I have seen (non-anonymous) posters, with impeccable credentials, who have led others astray into stocks that almost instantly went bankrupt. Thus, I think it is best if people don't rely too much on others, but try to stick to stocks that they can grasp themselves. If you don't learn all about how science and society work, you're helplessly dependent upon the bathroom walls. Science is such a broad field that it's impossible to learn every aspect of it. That's why I think it's best if investors stick to industries that they know. As far as how society works, I've unfortunately learned too much about it already: all about greed, deception, and betrayal, things which I wish didn't exist -- but I'm sure that's off-topic. * * * And now, does anyone wish to discuss Ciena?

To: ahhaha who wrote (5407)	11/11/1998 8:43:00 AM
From: Helios	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12623

'On the other hand of you lase and then mix via photodiode, you can take advantage of the fact that the photonic field is nearly two dimensional enabling you to project a second time dimension onto the third spatial coordinate' Gobildegoop! If you can't explain it then you don't understand it or you're making it up as you go along. I took Silkwoods technology to be simply to use an external cavity to modulate the beam. I expect that this has the advantage, in principle, of making single mode operation easier, since you're not perturbing the laser directly. What Silkwood describes in their web site sounds difficult to implement in a reliable commercial device although certainly achievable in the lab. Silkwood is the least of any Ciena shareholders worries.