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To: John Hunt who wrote (23084)11/18/1998 9:42:00 AM
From: Enigma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116791
 
John - i posted this elsewhere:

Bubble bubble .... ... ....... - courtesy Slate Magazine:

Charles Kindleberger's Manias, Panics, and Crashes is the most
important book ever written on the subject of investment bubbles. In
it, Kindleberger catalogues the rises and inevitable falls of
various investor favorites throughout history, ranging from tulip
bulbs to shares in the South Sea Company to RCA stock in the 1920s. If Kindleberger ever updates his book, he should add a whole chapter about last week in the U.S. stock market, which offered a series of resonant--and painful--examples of investor self- delusion.

The delusion, of course, was all about the Internet, and the
so-called dot.com companies. eBay's stock exploded, Earthweb went
public and rose more than fourfold, and Theglobe.com, a company with $1.7 million in revenue, saw its stock price jump from $9 a share to as high as $97 a share in one day before closing at $63 (a tidy 600
percent rise). But the strangest story actually belonged to a
company without .com at the end of its name, namely tiny Internet
service provider Avtel Communications Corp.

On Thursday, Avtel issued a press release announcing that it was
introducing ADSL service (asymmetric digital subscriber line) in
downtown Santa Barbara. For downtown Santa Barbarians, this was good
news. ADSL is a way of accessing the Internet that offers blazing
speed and the ability to access the Net and talk on a phone
simultaneously. Although you need an ADSL modem and your local phone company has to have ADSL technology available, the service works much better and faster than ISDN. Next year is expected to be the year in which phone companies around the country introduce ADSL as a common feature.

But while Avtel's news was important to the people who were now going to be able to find out what a T-1 line was like without having to
pay for a T-1, it hardly seemed to be big news to anybody else.
Avtel doesn't own a patent on ADSL technology, and it doesn't
manufacture ADSL modems. And the company didn't pretend that any of those things were true. But it didn't matter.

In the best example yet that a sucker is born every minute, investors
piled into Avtel last Thursday, sending the stock from $3 a share to
$13 a share by mid-day. Avtel had something to do with the Internet.
What else did you need to know? Then the day traders, momentum
players, and fools jumped in en masse. By the end of the day,
Avtel's stock had risen from $3 a share to $31.

That's right. If you were an Avtel shareholder who went bowling all
day Thursday, when you came home your shares were 1,284 percent more valuable than when you woke up in the morning.

At that point, the Nasdaq stepped in, and actually halted trading in
the stock all day Friday until Avtel could clarify its first
release. It did so, in unusual detail, explaining how much its
service would cost subscribers (somewhere between an extra $70 and $240 a month, not unreasonable for heavy Net users) and stressing the fact that the service had been rolled out only in one three-mile section of Santa Barbara. The company also said that published stories to the effect that Avtel had plans to introduce the service nationally were mistaken, the product of confusion between Avtel's ADSL service and a new Internet-access business the company is taking national.

The thing about this story is that it is not the tale of an Internet
company tricking the public into buying its shares. While the
initial Avtel press release is stylistically hyperbolic, it clearly
stated that the service was only available in Santa Barbara, and
that the only firm plans for further roll-out involved two other
California towns. ADSL is not some radical new technology. Every
major Bell company has plans to introduce it in some form in the
next year. So Avtel didn't mean to trick anyone.

That's why this is such a wonderful (or sad) story about
self-delusion. There's no way anyone who bought this stock at $15 or
$20 a share could have been looking at the company's fundamentals.
They couldn't really even have read the press release. They were
trading purely on momentum. In that sense, what happened with Avtel
is not very different from what's happened to the dot.com stocks,
with one important distinction: The Nasdaq stepped in and halted
trading.

In doing so, the Nasdaq effectively slapped investors in the face and
said, "Wake up!" When Avtel's shares opened Monday morning, the
stock was all the way back down to $3, from its previous close of
$31. In the course of the day, the stock actually bounced all the
way up to $15, and then closed at $10 1/2, still a hefty 250 percent
leap from its Wednesday close, but perhaps not unreasonable given
its successful introduction of ADSL.

The curious thing to think about is what might have happened had the Nasdaq not stepped in. Eventually the market would have woken up, one presumes. But as last week demonstrated, we are living through a moment in which manias have become almost common occurrences, in which ignoring anything resembling fundamental analysis has become conventional wisdom. In the case of Avtel, the consequences are insignificant (except for those who bought at the peak). But the continuing saga of Internet mania raises broader, and more troubling, questions about the market's collective rationality. In
the land of the blind, the one-eyed man may be king, but are there
any one-eyed men left?

________________




To: John Hunt who wrote (23084)11/18/1998 10:35:00 AM
From: Alex  Respond to of 116791
 
Gold demand back up to near record levels - WGC

NEW YORK, Nov 18 (Reuters) - Demand for gold worldwide in the third quarter continued to recover from the poor start to the year, although the economic crisis in Asia kept demand below normal levels in several countries, the World Gold Council (WGC) said Wednesday.

Total gold demand in the third quarter in the countries monitored by the WGC was 676 tonnes, just one percent below the record third quarter of 1997, according to the WGC's quarterly publication ''Gold Demand Trends'' published Wednesday.

The good third quarter statistics were the result of a steady performance by the jewelry sector and a surge in investment demand, especially in the U.S. where coin sales rose to near record levels, the WGC said.

''The most significant development in the third quarter was a continued increase in the demand for gold as an investment,'' said George Milling-Stanley, manager of market analysis for the WGC.

''All over the world, investors are looking for ways to preserve their wealth,'' he said. ''This growth in investment demand has become increasingly apparent over the past several quarters and the revival has spread to countries as diverse as Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, the U.S. and Japan.''

In the developing markets, good growth in Saudi Arabia and Brazil, together with continued recovery in much of Asia, was offset by small declines in India and China due to adverse economic circumstances, the report said.

Dishoarding in Asia, notable in the first quarter, has now virtually dried up though, the WGC said.

Overall demand in developing markets was six percent below last year's record.

In the developed markets, demand was strong in the U.S. and Europe, while investment demand in Japan revived toward the end of the quarter.

Overall demand in developed markets was 16 pct ahead of the same period in 1997.

''The market is now running into what is traditionally the strongest period of the year for gold demand,'' the WGC's Milling-Stanley said.

''The Indian festival and wedding season is well under way, Christmas should provide its usual boost to demand in the western world and buying should soon start to pick up among Chinese communities ahead of the Lunar New Year,'' he said.

The WGC is an international trade organization funded by the leading gold mining companies. Countries monitored by the WGC account for about 80 pct of global gold demand.

biz.yahoo.com



To: John Hunt who wrote (23084)11/19/1998 11:36:00 AM
From: John Hunt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116791
 
OT - Re Any Y2K Crisis

Y2K, like most thinks in life, will probably be somewhere in between the two extreme scenarios.

After living in the country without power during the great ice storm last January, I learned that, unless you want to live in a shelter, you are on your own. Any minimal help from your government will take days to arrive and if they promise monetary help, months to arrive.

We were without power for lights, heat or cooking ( 8 days ), water ( 8 days - we carried 20 gallons per day from town), Telephone ( 3 days ), internet ( 8 days without SI or the market - talk about withdrawal! ) I gained some appreciation for the term ' freezing in the dark ' and said ' never again' .

We have since tried to make ourselves as self-reliant as possible by

1) Buying a standby generator ( If you do buy one, chain or bolt it down as many were stolen )

2) Buying several oil lamps ( Candles are just too dangerous and stores quickly run out of batteries, etc )

3) Upgrading our wood stove to an 'EPA approved' model ( for safety during longer burns )

4) Stocking up on plastic sheeting ( You can add a couple of layers to your windows to keep the heat in during a crisis )

5) Keeping a little more ordinary canned and packaged food on hand.

You don't need Y2K for a disaster .... With global warming messing up the weather, ice storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, tornados are all possible .... Do your family a favour and use just a little of your hard-earned trading profits to CYA.

Better get down off this soap-box ... I am getting dizzy.

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John