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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12388)11/19/1998 2:29:00 PM
From: Charles Tutt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Michelle, it's nice you believe in the ERP software you sell, but not everyone thinks it's a panacea.

BTW, how effective were you as the "interface mgr on the SGI Oracle implementation" if you don't understand their business?



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (12388)11/19/1998 2:46:00 PM
From: paul  Respond to of 74651
 
congratulations on the SGI implementation - it was a very succesful implementation that Oracle got a lot of mileage from - im becoming convinced however that the long term value of a quick implementation is that you get to be part of a PR piece with the ERP manufacturer and pose for a photo with your sales rep - ive been dealing with a few of them and i dont have a good impression so far. I think SGI back then was well over a billion dollar company, with a diversified product line and the whole MIPS manufacturing facility - so i think there pretty mainstream. Perhaps there problem was implementing on that SGI challenge machine - maybe they should have went for Sun!

im still unclear when you say that Sun hasnt given you a reason to choose a unix box vs. a NT box. What measures are important to you? availability, reliability, scalability, what happens when you reach NT 4.0's scalability wall? add more servers - have you priced what a NT server costs - for a similar configuration your paying just as much as a unix server. do your applications have to stay up - unix servers can stay up for years - NT - lets say that its significantly less. How about clustering for both scalability and availability, NT can fail over only to another server but cant scale across both nodes - mainframes and unix has been doing this for years. Manageability - again, no remote management - your server goes down 1000 miles away - you need a sysadmin to bring it back up - no remote manageability.

NT - 32 bit good thing Intel's 32 bit too - alpha's 64 bit though but a small niche market.

Solaris - 64 bit - ultrasparc processors 64 bit since 1995. Im not a speeds and feeds person but its called bandwidth - something which is increasingly in demand.

but like you say everythings a matter of scale.