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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DMaA who wrote (15338)	11/19/1998 10:33:00 PM
From: John C James	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

That is because none of the facts here are in question. It is all in the interpretation put on the facts. This is a political proceeding and not a legal one and everyone in the room is acting that way. The country is rightly sick of this stuff and the Republicans were punished for it in November. This impeachment hearing is a sham. It shows that the Republicans can't run the country . Bill Clinton for all his deep flaws has shown that he can at least govern.. John

To: DMaA who wrote (15338)	11/19/1998 11:28:00 PM
From: Borzou Daragahi	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 67261

Let's put down our partisan guns for a sec' and give an honest appraisal of the day's hearing. In this media-savvy age, even Joe Sixpack can see through the packaging to get at the real product. No one is going to believe in the sincerity of any of these folks. And everyone hates lawyers, so the sight of a noisy, fractious roomful of them battling it out may turn off a lot of people to the whole thing--a short-term boon for the Democrats. I'll leave it for the professional pundits waxing hypocritical on the idiot box to comment on how whole impeachment process will play out in 2000. Ken Starr performed beautifully, holding up extremely graciously for 12 hours under an intense barrage of partisan vitriol. I laughed. I cried. Too bad for him the only highlights they'll probably show on the local news--where most people will catch any of the hearings--was when he got flustered by that Houston Democrat's question on when he knew there was a tape of a woman claiming to have sex with Clinton (Ken: "I don't recall. I don't recollect.") and his spat with Kendall. The Democrats mostly came off as shrill (yes crybabies, to some extent, but Conyers, Frank, Waters, are the most leftist members of the party. What do you expect?). But they got their job done brilliantly: making Starr's conduc and Hyde's conducting of the hearing a focus of the hearings, even getting Starr and the Republicans go along with that agenda. It wasn't pretty, wasn't fair, and wasn't subtle. But you gotta give to 'em. It worked. "Then we'll just have to win," Clinton said. The Republicans, for the most part, made the mistake of identifying themselves too closely with Starr, who remains massively unpopular among the populace. The smartest Republicans were respectful of Starr but voiced serious doubts about his inquiry. Bono performing public fellatio on Starr may play well in Bible-thumpin'-land, but not in Volvo-burbia. The Republicans' cowtowing to Starr only serves the Democrats' agenda of making Starr appear like he's a tool of the right, rather than the honest and scrupulous investigator he wants to come off as. Poor Henry Hyde. A double scotch for him tonight, nay, a triple. He's seeming increasingly unhealthy as of late. Maybe he should get a membership at a health club, or a tanning salon. Anyone's comments will be warmly appreciated.

To: DMaA who wrote (15338)	11/20/1998 1:35:00 AM
From: sea_biscuit	Respond to of 67261

heh heh. Only goes to show that at least the Dems know what's going on, while the Repubs don't even know what hit them! Not exactly something to be proud of. Dipy.

To: DMaA who wrote (15338)	11/20/1998 3:11:00 AM
From: Borzou Daragahi	Respond to of 67261

The GOP is making a serious mistake with these hearings, IMO. The Republicans should focus their efforts on expunging the ugly elements from their party that make them currently unelectable on a national level. They should be focusing on building up George W. Bush or Pete Wilson for what I promise you will be a gruelling death match with Al Gore--or even smarter for the Dems--someone untainted like Bill Bradley. They should be refining their message of fiscal conservatism and reaching out to the key constituencies of the 21st Century--Latinos, blacks, and Asians. They should actively shed their White Hetereosexual Christian America First image and come up with an inclusive vision of America. The last thing they need to do is to waste energy on this impeachment and further associate themselves with the intolerant elements in America who are cheering the inquiry on. For every Clinton-hater mouthing off about Vince Foster or Bloodgate (and his apathetic wife and punk-rock-listening daughter): there's a Mexican bodega owner with a wife and four kids a rich gay professional and his equally successful partner (and both of their increasingly mellow parents and relatives) a black medical technician and his public service employee wife and their two kids a socially liberal, fiscally conservative (Gov. William Weld material) BMW-driving couple in the burbs with their 1.8 kids and planned vacation to the Greek Islands and a Pakistani computer programmer who will soon be eligible for citizenship. The future of America demographically is international, multicultural and, within the context of this diversity, by necessity* socially tolerant. These people to a major extent represent a large part of the future of this country. The Democrats, whether by instinct or plan, are actively courting them. But where's the GOP? Getting hemorrhoids from sitting on their butts in committee hearings or getting tongue blisters from licking the rear-ends of Gary Bauer and other rightwing throwbacks.