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To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (15343)	11/19/1998 11:58:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

I have a question rather than a comment. Why did the Republicans insist on going into executive session at the end, to discuss (and vote on) issuing subpoenas to three witnesses connected to nothing but the Willey incident (which Starr himself had said did not involve anything impeachable)? That really made them look bad. It made them look as if they really had something to conceal, and Hyde's failure to give the Democrats any reason, publicly, for calling those particular witnesses made him look both bossy and incompetent..(I can see the puns now: "The Republicans are playing Hyde & Seek"...etc.) Strange, because up to that point I would say the Republicans had the day, largely because Starr came across well (if a little too boy-scouty). But Schippers did not, IMO: his "questioning" of Starr struck me as being more like a 45-minute soap-box oration+eulogy. jbe

To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (15343)	11/20/1998 1:10:00 AM
From: Scrapps	Respond to of 67261

You saw what I did mostly Borzou, I think Starr was finally introduced to the public and came across just fine. The main thing that amazes me...is these clowns on the hill get a chance to behave as leaders, yet they can't focus (refuse to) on the facts and the job at hand. I'm now a believer in term limits.

To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (15343)	11/20/1998 1:57:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Borzou, from what I saw of the hearings the Democrats should be embarrassed at the gross partisan mockery they made of themselves. We saw today how there truly are two rules of law. One for the King (Clinton and his court) and the other for Joe Sixpack. Our principles were defaced and dishonored by Democrats who have placed their political aspirations above the rule of law and good of the country. Honesty, Integrity, Fairness, and Courage maybe principles Democrats don't feel a need to honor, by I for one think they are just plain wrong! It was a disgrace the way they so callously tossed aside the Constitution in order to get that 6.7 second sound bite on the news. If not for the grossly slanted liberal news organizations in America, they wouldn't feel so teflon coated. Michael

To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (15343)	11/20/1998 1:59:00 AM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

*Poor Henry Hyde. A double scotch for him tonight, nay, a triple. He's seeming increasingly unhealthy as of late. Maybe he should get a membership at a health club, or a tanning salon. Actually, I fervently wish that all these endless sittings cause him to develop a bad case of hemorrhoids! :-) Those bastards deserve to learn at least a lesson or two for behaving so irresponsibly that they choose to set aside everything that concerns people's welfare and are instead talking ad nauseam about sex. Dipy.

To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (15343)	11/20/1998 1:28:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 67261

Group Complains To IRS About Clinton Church Visit BALTIMORE (Reuters) - A watchdog group claims a prominent black church in Baltimore improperly engaged in partisan politics when President Clinton appeared there just before Election Day and urged parishioners to vote. The group, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, has filed a complaint with the Internal Revenue Service alleging the New Psalmist Baptist Church violated federal tax rules forbidding churches and other tax-exempt organizations from participating in political activity. Joining Clinton at the Nov. 1 service at one of Baltimore's oldest and largest black churches was Maryland's Democratic governor, Parris Glendening. He was reelected to a second term two days later partly on a surge in support from black and women voters. At the service, Clinton told parishioners their vote would make a difference. ''It looked surprisingly similar to a pep rally for the Democratic Party and Gov. Glendening, in particular,'' said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. ''There's no evidence that New Psalmist Baptist Church invited any other people or representatives of other political parties.'' Church officials were not available for comment. The president's visit coincided with a national effort by the Democratic Party to turn out the vote for the midterm election. Nationally, get-out-the-vote campaigns aimed at minority voters and union workers helped reduce Republican control of the House of Representatives to just five seats and cost Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia his job. In 1992, Americans United for Separation of Church and State challenged a church in New York state that sponsored newspaper ads urging readers not to vote for Clinton on moral grounds. The IRS revoked the church's tax-exempt status three years later. But a federal lawsuit filed against the IRS action has yet to be settled, the group said. The watchdog group, established in 1947 by public educators and religious leaders, said it also was considering complaints to the IRS against five churches that distributed Christian Coalition voter guides on the Sunday before Election Day.

To: Borzou Daragahi who wrote (15343)	11/20/1998 1:30:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 67261

'60 Minutes' To Air Kevorkian Death By DAVID BAUDER AP Television Writer NEW YORK (AP) - CBS's ''60 Minutes'' said it would air a videotape Sunday of a terminally ill patient dying after being administered a lethal dose of drugs by Dr. Jack Kevorkian. Kevorkian, the Michigan doctor who has acknowledged helping about 120 people commit suicide, tells Mike Wallace it is the first time he is admitting to killing a patient himself. He said he wants authorities to prosecute him for euthanasia. The doctor brought the videotape to ''60 Minutes'' less than two weeks ago, network spokesman Kevin Tedesco said. ''We're just letting Dr. Kevorkian tell his story,'' he said. ''He wants to use the videotape to tell it and that's an integral part of it. I really don't think there's a news organization in this country that would pass up this story.'' The patient and his family are interviewed on the videotape. It is being shown with their permission, he said. A medical examiner in Michigan reported this week that a man found dead in his Waterford Township home by a hospice nurse on Sept. 17 had been injected with a barbiturate mixture similar to chemicals used by Kevorkian in the past. The dead man was identified as Thomas Youk, 52, a patient who suffered from Lou Gehrig's Disease. Tedesco would not comment when asked whether Youk was the patient seen in Kevorkian's video. An Oakland County medical examiner said that since Youk was in the advanced stages of the degenerative and fatal nerve illness, he would have been physically incapable of injecting himself. The medical examiner, Dr. L.J. Dragovic, has performed autopsies on many of the people who had died with Kevorkian's help and said the death fits the doctor's methods. Kevorkian did not return a telephone message on Thursday. His lawyer, Michael A. Schwartz, said Kevorkian hadn't warned him that he was going to ''60 Minutes.'' ''I certainly never told him it was a good idea.,'' Schwartz said. CBS said Kevorkian told Wallace that he wants to force a trial on euthanasia charges in the hope that it would fail and set a legal precedent. Kevorkian said he is advocating euthanasia for people who demand it, adding the practice could be controlled by sanctioning only certain doctors to perform it. ''If I am convicted, I will starve to death in prison,'' Kevorkian told Wallace. ''So I will go. The issue has got to be raised to the level where it is finally decided.'' The spectacularly provocative newsmagazine segment will be aired on the last Sunday of broadcasting's November ''sweeps'' period, where TV ratings are watched closely to set local advertising rates. Tedesco said viewers will be warned in advance that the story could be disturbing to some.