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To: John S. who wrote (22424)	11/23/1998 1:43:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

"I am opposed to any religion that professes salvation in any other way other than by Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ. That includes Judaism and yes Catholicism." Are you telling us that Roman Catholicism, Orthodox Catholicism, Anglican Catholicism etc. do not teach salvation by Jesus Christ? Are you telling us that these Catholic Christian Churches were not used by God to first write and then preserve, through the Holy Spirit, the Word of God that Protestant got from them? Are you telling us that there were no Christians Catholics until the Protestant Reformation? Are you disassociating yourself from all Christians of the first 15th centuries? Are you telling us that the Catholic Churches who preach Christ Jesus for salvation and who continue to preserve and exalt the Word of God every day of the year through their services are the same as modern antichrist Judaism that denies, hates and ridicule the Lord Jesus Christ? Are you telling us that only memebers of the Catholic Church are not saved but all the members of Protestants Churches are saved? Bill Graham recently estimated that 70% of Baptist are not saves. I have been evanglizing for almost thrities years and have found that there are some members of all Christian denomination who are not saved. I personally know many Roman and Orthodox Catholics who are devout Christians but still worship in their respective Churches. I have never met a devout Jew who followed the teachings of modern talmudic that was saved. I have found that Christ is the center of all mainline Christian Churches. I have found many minor doctrines that I consider false among everyone Christian denomination, but these doctrines rarely distract from the centrality of Christ for the members salvation. Even the first generation Christians found in the Bible were struggling with a diversity of minor doctrines---what to eat, what to wear etc. etc. Some raise Paul, some Peter and some Apollos as their leaders, but all put Christ in the center for their salvation. Your false judgments against Catholic Christians is deplorable and uncrhistian. It is Christ Jesus in the heart that saves and not your pathetic exclusive doctrines that separates the Christian brethren. If Catholic accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and SAviour, he is saved. He does not need some Protestant mantra to assure him of his salvation. All Christians are one in Christ. The Body of Christ is not divided. He who would teach division and hatred towards the Body of Christ--the Church--is not teaching the things of God. Your ignorance and hatred against Christian Catholics was very clear in your response. It was not the fact that they accepted Jesus that saved them in your mind but the fact that they were to accept your pathetic views on the Catholic Church. As soon as they denied YOU and decided to return to the Catholic Church, you judged them as unsaved. Was it not enough that they accepted Christ for their salvation? Is their something else necessary for salvation according to your "church" and teachings? All who believe in Christ as their Lord and Saviour are saved! The defects of their respective denominations does not unsave them as you would imply. Outside of Christ there is not salvation. In Christ, man is safe and saved. Emile

To: John S. who wrote (22424)	11/23/1998 1:50:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

John, <<<The impression your postings give is a hatred for Jewish people and the nation of Israel. It is high time you realize this.>>> Could you substantiate this claim against Emile. I fail to see where he has said anything about hating Jews. Yes, I agree that he does have a zeal in exposing some of their false beliefs but I don't see him expressing a hatred towards them in his posts. Perhaps other peoples responses to him are helping to create an unsubstantiated bias against him. Chris