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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (15878)	11/25/1998 3:32:00 AM
From: Borzou Daragahi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

I have no need or desire to harm your boyfriends, or your depraved family, or that father you've never really known, or that thing you call a "mother". Your miserable lives are your own penalties. You may continue to lap up filth like the dogs you are. Simply keep your filth with you in your pits and all will be well in Zion... Were I to believe my heritage and legacy in direct peril, were I to believe it necessary to defend myself against you, this, by use of force, and as a last resort, then I would fight both you and your Sodomite troop with utter courage and passion, even had I to do it alone. I would care not at all for my own life, but would nevertheless work diligently to preserve it only perchance to use it to your defeat--at the very least to make you crucify the day you forced me to arms. Should your depraved ilk continue to press yourselves as you now do, then you will bring pure disaster upon this country, and then not only will I be in hell, but you and all you know will be there also. It will be pure hell for us all. You contradict yourself, sweetie. On the one hand "all will be well in Zion," on the other hand me and my "depraved ilk...will bring pure disaster upon this country," cuz believe me, we'll "press [our]selves as [we] now do." Cultural tolerance is a juggernaut which cannot be stopped. And Johannes, if "all will be well in Zion" whether or not my "depraved family" or "that father" I've "never really known" or "that thing" I "call a 'mother'" come to harm, then why are you so concerned about the moral state of our nation? Since everything is just swell in "Zion" why even bother going on your one-man crusade for morality? Since the battle has already been won, since there is no danger that anyone will corrupt your children, why waste your time putting "depraved" people like me and others on this thread in their place? You obviously sense some kind of threat. Why else would you take precious time out from your busy life of flying, stock investing, hunting, exploring the outdoors and home-schooling your children to engage in rhetorical battle with the likes of an unclean person such as myself or others on this thread? Entertainment? Pouncing on the liberal scum for sport? Gimme a break! I'll tell you why I engage you: Because I believe your rhetoric, your tone, your ideas need to be addressed and countered. I see you as someone who would quickly sacrifice your lackluster committment to civil liberties and vote for some strongman who promised to cleanse the nation of its moral evils. You may not realize it, but you're a classic dupe. And by engaging you, I'm only trying to save you (and myself) from the ultimate end of your paranoid, violence-laced political irrationality. I also pity your children should one of them turn out to be gay or lesbian, or choose to have an abortion. Please have mercy on them. Love, Borzou

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (15878)	11/29/1998 7:06:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

-->it will ever be superior to the Sodomite unit -->lap up filth like the dogs you are. -->I would never soil a clean bullet by putting it in the likes of your perverted body. -->I have no desire to come within a bullet's range of you. -->viscerally repulsed by the stench of those who are members of your Sodomite unit. -->not cowering in the least before the likes of your filth and depravity. -->touched your filthy excuse for a body. -->You are not worthy even to be killed by the likes of me -->getting too close to you, a thought I find repulsive beyond measure. -->I on the other hand would prefer to avoid your ilk at nearly all cost -->parading his filth and depravity in our streets, attempting to force his miserable existence upon decent people -->filthy Sodomite -->I will be willing to die to defend against you. -->I would fight both you and your Sodomite troop with utter courage and passion, even had I to do it alone. -->Because I have never gone to a Sodomite brothel, and never will. ------------- I am not a reader of this thread, but your exchange with Borzou Daragahi was called to my attention, and I read it with fascination at how a person as evidently literate as you, can be so entirely without even a modicum of emotional sophistication or self awareness. Johannes, read the phrases I've pasted from your post to Mr. Daragahi. Do you not see what you have revealed about yourself? Do you know that every heterosexual, male or female, who reads your words has to be thinking the same thing? The reason we are all thinking the same thing ("Geez, what is his problem?!") is because we are not having your feelings. We are calm. We are unthreatened. We are perhaps curious at a different way of being, or perhaps not. But Johannes -- nothing about what homosexuals are doing penetrates to the heart of our sexual being, moves us to rage, fills us with hate, makes us lose control, makes us obsess, brings the overwrought words I have pasted above to our minds. "Because I have never gone to a Sodomite brothel, and never will," you wrote. You're proud! Believe me, Johannes, it would never occur to someone not tempted, deep down, to ever go "to a Sodomite brothel," to boast that he had not done so and was furthermore resolved never, ever to do so! Johannes, it looks to me like you have a lot of identification with homosexual activity. A lot of emotion is raised when you contemplate it. Dude, it is almost like you are there, doin' it. The above is just my immediate reaction but I have a friend who is a psychoanalyst, and your post seemed to me so very disturbed, and inappropriately fixated on somebody else's sex life, that I called and read it to her, out of curiosity about what she would think. Here's what she said, for your consideration. : "This is not normal, and it is bigger than projection, it is a psychotic rage. A sense of reality is missing. I would be concerned about him, this is scary. His rage is in control of his thoughts. What you are seeing is a defense against some profound weakness. Obviously, he doth protest too much. Why is he so very, very excited? Why? Because this kind of rage needs a receptacle. He sounds like a scary person who is potentially a tragic one. How can he live with this level of rage-- well, he has become expert at projecting it outward. That sense of "badness" isn't about homosexuals-- it is about himself, and he is trying desperately to get rid of it. God forbid that he should ever feel it-- his fear is that it would overwhelm him and destroy him-- so he projects it outward, to save himself." -------------- Johannes, it is MHO that you should seek counseling before your feelings can no longer be controlled by projecting them onto others with whom you seem unconsciously to identify.