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To: greenspirit who wrote (16132)	11/27/1998 3:53:00 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Michael, Of course I cannot speak intelligently on the health ramifications of a medical procedure.What seems strange to me is that if as you seem to imply a womans' health cannot be at risk with out her life being at risk why not put those words in? What have you to lose? Let the doctor make the decision in each case. Btw the words I am referring to would be phsycial health . So lets not waste our time discussing mental health issues as I am sure we both agree that would be bogus. pez

To: greenspirit who wrote (16132)	11/27/1998 6:09:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Michael, I think you are being a bit disingenuous in saying that you are trying to understand this. Just in case, though, I will again point out a reason why such a medical procedure exists. Table 2. Fetal Deaths, 1992 Gestational age Number 2023 weeks 8,152 2427 weeks 4,567 2831 weeks 3,635 3235 weeks 4,107 (from agi-usa.org ) I hesitate to quote this next article, because it is as graphic as other accounts. But again, there is a reason that the medical procedure exists, and it's not the widely cited "make sure the fetus is dead before it comes out". Intact dilation and extraction (intact D&E), a variant of D&E, involves wide cervical dilation by osmotic dilators, internal podalic version, then total breech extraction. The skull is collapsed (cephalocentesis) to allow a smaller diameter to pass through the cervix, thus reducing risk of cervical injury. Although no data exist on the frequency of this operation,[3] only a small number of physicians nationwide perform this procedure. It may be especially useful in the presence of fetal anomalies, such as hydrocephalus. (http://www.ama-assn.org/sci-pubs/journals/most/recent/issues/jama/cv71005x.htm ) There are reasons for late abortions. Some of them are cited in the above article. You may not approve of those reasons, but they aren't often brought up in the pro-life "PBA" gory detail recitations. I trust doctors and patients to make decisions they can live with. I don't exactly trust pro-life advocates to legislatively regulate medical practice, given the extremely "factual" manner in which this issue is normally presented.