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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (16195)	11/28/1998 8:56:00 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

<<Honor, decency, courage, trust and honesty are not some flippant media word games with people serving in the armed forces. It's a code most believe in and do their best to live by every day. How can we NOT expect the same from our Commander in Chief, our Leader? >> I can only imagine how the people felt after the missile attack on the pill factory when the draft dodger blocked all investigations into whether it was warranted or not. Two sets of rules, one for you and one for, you know who. How many enlisted personal have 40 lawyers at their disposal plus a spin machine? In a Courts Martial can the charged take a time out? No wonder the Military is losing good people.

To: greenspirit who wrote (16195)	11/29/1998 2:26:00 AM
From: Borzou Daragahi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Hello Michael, Just a few thoughts. The liberals in the media will never admit that moral in the military is at the lowest level in decades. I seem to recall a number of articles written about low morale in the military, and how Clinton's behavior as well as Congressionally approved base closings and budget cuts have contributed to it. Michael, any reporter worth his salt would love to write a story interviewing military personnel who are willing to go on the record discussing how Clinton's actions have hurt them. That's an awesome story, and if it were my beat, I would love to do it. It's just tough getting soldiers to talk on a subject like this! Would you be willing to go on the record with a reporter and tell him/her exactly what you thought of Slick? Why not call your local paper or write a letter to the editor explaining what you've just explained to me? You're in the Seattle area? I'm friends with a really good reporter in Seattle. And it's primarily been caused by a Commander in Chief who's principles are totally out of alignment with the troops. I could describe to you literally hundreds of first hand stories regarding this issue. I feel truly sorry for the military folks if they feel this way. It was somewhat inevitible that soldiers would feel this way given Clinton's lack of military service. During the Reagan era, by the way, I felt similarly about our commander in chief--someone whose principles and policies were totally out of alignment with mine. You may believe in this cynical view of America if you wish. Not just a cynical view of America. It's a view of all human history, from the Aztecs to the a*holes inside the Beltway. I don't believe it's good that things are the way they are, but though I don't drink booze, I make it a point to drink reality straight up--no chaser, no ice. It can be a harsh, unjust world for people who are not powerful. Always has been. I can guarantee you most people willing to put their lives on the line when given the order from this or any President do not!* Soldiers throughout history have always had a particularly harsh lot. They are often conned into fighting for causes they may believe in, while their cynical, amoral leaders kick back and enjoy the fruits of the soldiers' suffering. Once they get to the front lines and realize the war is a sham, the have to fight like hell to make sure they and their buddies don't get killed, regardless of whether the Kaiser is a jerk. Look at World War I. What the hell was all that bloodshed about, anyway? Look at the soldiers who fought for Stalin, ostensibly against Hitler, only to return to a country that was equally as oppressive as the Nazis'. Look at the poor soldiers who invaded Southeast Asia, ostensibly for the freedom of the Vietnamese, while Robert McNamara and company realized the war was unwinnable and maybe even wrong. But, Michael, you have to admit that the nature of warfare has changed in the U.S. military. Soldiers rarely engage in hand-to-hand combat, and are increasingly well-trained operators of sophisticated weaponry. This abstracted, high-tech military machinery negates the need for the totally loyal discipline required of soldiers engaged in ground warfare. Would you agree? Honor, decency, courage, trust and honesty are not some flippant media word games with people serving in the armed forces. They certainly aren't to me either. But I bet you they are to people like Clinton, Gingrich, Gramm, and most of the other elite schmucks who run the government. There are exceptions, of course.