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To: Saturn V who wrote (69271)12/2/1998 12:35:00 AM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Saturn V,

Designing systems with signals faster than 100Mhz is no cake walk.

Isn't Intel planning on shipping DRDRAM systems with 800MHz data lines next year? Are you suggesting that Intel will have great difficulty doing this?

Scumbria



To: Saturn V who wrote (69271)12/2/1998 1:39:00 AM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Saturn,
RE:"During the next year, I do not see the K-7 taking a significant
part of the server market from Xeon.
1) Servers demand high speed and large cache memory, and
integer based computing . At 100Mhz Main memory and
200MHz L2 cache, K-7 has little attraction.

2) Server manufacturers are very conservative. They require
extensive qualification cycles. Xeon is finally made being
accepted in this gruelling segment. K-7 will only be used as a
bargaining lever with Intel, and you are not going to see
significant volumes.

However K-7 will find a more receptive audience for
Workstations.K-7 should do well on those benchmarks which are
floating point intensive, and do not
need large and fast cache memory.The Workstation market is
less demanding than the server market in terms of qualification
and reliability requirements. However if workstation software
can be optimized or re-compiled for Katmai, then the K-7 will be
be completely checkmated."

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K7 may or may not take significant market share from Xeon but do not lose sight of this....
1. AMD has NO share of the server market now. Any at all is a significant occurance....especially when you come from 0.
2. What Intel loses on margins selling Celerons they have been able to make up with Pentium IIs and high priced Xeons. Server makers will lick their chops at using the threat of the K7 against the Xeon and some will actually use the K7 in servers as well.

As far as using the K7 in servers vs workstations. AMD has plans for K7 versions optimized for both....The K7 because of it's design is a very modifiable chip.

Jim