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To: Dayuhan who wrote (26756)12/8/1998 11:58:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I am with you Steve, except on one point of fact.

It has to do with the question of -- who or what is a Jew? You may say that it is someone who practices Judaism. If he ceases to practice it, in your view, he is no longer a Jew. But there are some Jews who would disagree with that definition -- including all the secular Jews of Israel, I would presume. Good grief -- I'm no expert on this, but still, weren't quite a few of the Zionist leaders atheists?

But you are on the subject of the Russian Revolution. So it is relevant to inquire how the state defined who is a Jew.

In pre-revolutionary Russia, the term was defined more or less the way you define it. You were a Jew if you practiced Judaism -- and that was in your passport. If you converted to Russian Orthodoxy, you were no longer a Jew (and could live wherever you wanted); and they would stamp "Russian Orthdox" in your passport.

But in Soviet Russia, you were and are a Jew because that is your "nationality". Hence, it was and is quite possible & normal to be an "atheist Jew".



To: Dayuhan who wrote (26756)12/9/1998 12:47:00 AM
From: Kid Rock  Respond to of 108807
 
Steve,

Your excellently phrased questions would have been a hallmark to the Question Only thread!

Tom



To: Dayuhan who wrote (26756)12/10/1998 8:49:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
"Have you never wondered why no credible historian has ever given 2 cents worth of time to this theory{That Communism is Jewish)?

"Why then has it (Winter in Moscow) never been republished? The answer may lie in Muggeridge's handling of what was then called the 'Jewish question.'...Winter in Moscow is acutely concerned with Jews...It was of course the case that a very disproportionate number of the early Bolsheviks were Jews and thus of commissars and apparatchiki..."(Sunday Telegraph (London, England: Nov. 18, 1990)

Emile