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To: Ilaine who wrote (26794)12/10/1998 8:58:00 AM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Cobalt,
I wonder what religion they teach in the schools in India? Or China? Or other countries of different or no religious persuasion? I wonder if they have such a problem as we do of minorities wanting to stamp out the predominant religion of the land. Well, yes I hguess so. In India they kill each other so I guess we are pretty civilized by those standars. I do live in a lily white protestant community. But I was born and raised in Rochester, NY so I'm no country bumpkin. I'm proud to say though that nobody has torched the one Catholic church (or are their two) in our county. I'm not a catholic though, don't get the wrong idea. The hari chrishna's moved on, they couldn't take the heat. Someone did torch a small grocery store because they started selling beer in a small community in our county that has never had beer sales before. The beer is gone. I'm not saying I condone arson, just that people feel strongly around here.

You say tax payer funded and that's the rub. First the fed took over control of the schools through strings attached to block grants to states for education. That opened the door to stamp out christianity. If the fed were not involved in local education the whole issue of school prayer would be a non-starter.

Bob

PS Are you an artist?



To: Ilaine who wrote (26794)12/10/1998 11:42:00 PM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Actually, Blue, I haven't taken any serious position on teaching religion as a social science subject. I have made a proposal that I am still waiting for Bob S's response to, a triumph of hope over experience.

Bob proposes to devote a certain period of each day to exposing all public school children to audible, conducted prayer sessions (silent, personal prayer being, in Bob's view, I gather, ineffectual or at least inferior to the Official Kind.) I figured that any fair person would agree that, since the schools in question are public ones supported by taxpayers of varying convictions on these matters, it was only fair that, proportionate to their representation in the population, atheists be able, also, to have the floor to to expose the children to their religious point of view, or perhaps just to meditate on the beauty of life on earth, for the fortunate, and the ways in which it may be made more beautiful for the unfortunate.

I would be delighted to be invited into the schools to tell the children how silly i feel "religion" is. No, no, no! -- I take it back, I wouldn't approach it like that, I remember too well what it is like to attend public school in the south and be subjected to religious rituals every morning that by implication disrespected my family's beliefs!

But I think I know perfectly well that Bob Sturgeon in no way is going to allow any beliefs that contradict his own to be promulgated in the public school. Maybe he would allow a platform for the groups you mentioned-- Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish-- but I'm not sure. After all, Bob's position is that he is right and the only one in possession of the truth.

In any case, I am sure that no way would I be able to speak, if he controlled the program, and my proposal was actually made to make that point. Still, I'd like a reply, and may repost the question from time to time.

I am behind in my reading of this thread, but thought I'd reply to your post before catching up.