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Gold/Mining/Energy : KOB.TO - East Lost Hills & GSJB joint venture -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: JL who wrote (870)12/10/1998 10:38:00 AM
From: Wizzer  Respond to of 15703
 
Hi JL. Hope all is "well" with you, no pun intended.<GGG> Market still seems to be interested in KOB. This play must still have a lot of interest in it, and rightfully so. The panic of the selling yesterday morning was short lived. Hoping for the best for all shareholders.

Regards, Wisam



To: JL who wrote (870)12/10/1998 9:16:00 PM
From: RSkarsten  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 15703
 
JL, I just would like to add, that if it hadn't been for threads, I would have never known about this well, nor the insuing events. I value opoinios as they tend to open up more creative thought. Some where along the line, with all this discussion, someone will hit the right answer based on the clues. My eval bombed due to the simple fact pointed out by you that low pressure can't flow into a high pressure pipe,

Let me try a new one.

Static pressure in the well before being entered, lets assume that it's at 20,000 psi. Now this cavity has been left undesturbed for probably millions of years. The gas, condensate, water, steam, oil, all that stuff, wouldn't be seperated out into layers? Like maybe gas on top, then steam, next maybe some condensate (i'm assuming the condensate means gas in liquid form, please varify), next would be some oil, then water at the bottom since it is the heaviest.

So now this pipe goes into this cavity of sandstone. (Funny, untill a few months ago, I always pictured wells as being big hollow caverns). First gas rushes out. It takes to weeks to drain. The resulting drop in pressure allows water to cast off more steam. Steam finally reaches the opening. As the materials go up the pipe, the weight of the material above decreases, pressure gets less and less, the gases expand in purportion to the rate of the decrease of pressure. Since there is a higher cubic foot amount of material at the top of the pipe than what went into the pipe at the bottom, the speed of the flow must increase in direct purportion to it's expansion. Right? Room must be made at the top of the pipe for new material to enter at the bottom. This is just a simple qyser effect, but I can't figure out a solid stream of water.

Now i can see some water as a result of condensation in the pipe, but not an absense of steam.

The only way i could see water from mid way would be that the casing stressed out due to extream temp differences too quickly. If there was some fresh water at around 3 or 4 hundred feet that was keeping the pipe cool, what would happen to it (the pipe) when 350 degree steam started running through it, and why would not hot gas have the same effect?

I know that steam will carry more heat, as its a heaver molocule, and it's vibrating with a heaver mass. Perhaps flowing shallow water kept the pipe cool untill the steam arrived, at which point the casing might have cracked. Maybe the hot gas cracked the pipe, and it took the steam to finally punch a hole in it. After a day, the pipe finally gave way, allowing allot of gas and steam to flow into a water chamber. Now if the hole in the pipe is below the surface of a pool of underground water, then water could be forced up the pipe from a mid point below, once the water chamber equaled out in pressure. I know, I know, All this theory, not enough proof, and the pat answer that is usually given, "Its possable".

I see now that all that has to be done is to sample the water. How about if we take up a collection and hire that news guy to get a sample and have it tested?

Also, I am a third level subscriber the Stockwatch, Is there a way that i can figure out the short positions by using the Trades for a day and broker work stations? I see all this data about who bought and sold, I know that its probably valuable, I just don't know what to do with, or how to compare the numbers.
Thanks in advance

Russ

So here's my Q.