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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (43143)12/10/1998 1:25:00 PM
From: Kevin K. Spurway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571929
 
Re: bigger L1

One thing nobody has really realized is that a 500 MHz Katmai is going to outperform a 500 MHz Xeon clock for clock. Hope Intel has plans to quickly port the Katmai core into the Xeon infrastructure.

Kevin



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (43143)12/10/1998 1:42:00 PM
From: Ali Chen  Respond to of 1571929
 
<This ploy is just like the one they used on the Pentium MMX.. >
No Jim, I think this time it is different.
For Pentiums there was a heavy dependence
on L2 cache performance that blocked DRAM
accesses. Every L1 miss was a big miss.
Therefore the increased rate of L1 hits
due to bigger L1 size on MMX directly
resulted in fewer L2/DRAM
activity, and contributed to the bottom
line of Pentium-"MMX" "32k-L1" performance.

For the PPro DIB architecture the size
of L1 (and even L2, as we see from Celery-A
example) does not matter too much on most
business applications. Therefore the effect
of new bigger Katmai in Winstones is obvious:
it will be close to ZERO, as it was with
all other P-II "improvements" (Elmer, au...h!).

The Katmai may show some small improvements
in number-crunching applications and benchmarks
like SPEC. I suspect Intel knows this and
that is why they market the Katmai for hi-end
workstation sector only and not for consumer
lines.