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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Big D who wrote (9229)	12/10/1998 3:16:00 PM
From: Thomas L Nielsen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

Since about 75% of the publics polled are for stopping these proceedings against our president it is obvious that the will of the people is not being carried out. The more rabid the rhetoric against the president the less likely that those doing the talking will be in control in the future. I say let the impeachment proceedings proceed, but I also think that the impeachment and talk shows that criticize our president are the democrats strongest allies in assuring victory in future elections.

To: Big D who wrote (9229)	12/11/1998 8:55:00 AM
From: Liatris Spicata	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

D- I find myself troubled by your post. Sleazebag Bill, Janis Joplin, Charles Fefferman (emminent mathematician) and I are all in some sense "Children of the 60's. At least the first and last on that list have very different sense of personal ethics. For many of us, honor and character are important qualities. The anti-government attitude (which, BTW, I frequently proudly wear) was bred in part by a crooked president (LBJ) who in a lifetime of public service netted considerable wealth and who lead my generation in a poorly conceived war that the president was unwilling to fight. I don't know what one can say of a nation that sends its young men into battle with rules of engagement that prevented sailors from rescuing downed but rescuable pilots because to do so would violate some politician's idea of how to fight a war. I for one hope we never get into another stupid politician's war like that of Vietnam, and I am confident I have the backing of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on that point. You are correct that the 60's altered acceptable standards of personal behavior in many ways, some for the better IMO. Standards of sexual behavior became much less hypocritical, and yes, there were certainly excesses, as Janis Joplin embodied. But many "boomers" despise theft, lying and politicians like the Clintons who use their office to enrich themselves. Much of the rebellion of the 60's was against an idiotic- and corrupt- authority headed by a president who won election claiming Americans should not fight the battles that Asians should fight, and then proceeded to do exactly that. And fools on this thread think the integrity of the President is unimportant! Bill Clinton does not represent anything approximating the best that my generation has produced. He's a little gladhanding sleazebag politician who has charmed his way to the top through the gullibility of the American people. All generations produce their share of Clintons. But my generation dealt with moral issues in a pretty intense manner when they came of age, and many have a strong sense of personal ethics. Frankly, I worry more about Generation X that never had to rise to a challenge more demanding than Beavis and Butthead and advancing their own careers. I suggest Gen X is less a generation concerned with moral issues than boomers. It would be interesting to see the results of a poll of Gen X vs. Boomers in terms of which is more accepting of Clinton's outrageous behavior. Perhaps the poll should be restricted to those who have a scintilla of education and realize that impeachment does not equate with removal from office! Larry