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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Machaon who wrote (18646)12/11/1998 9:55:00 PM
From: Bill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
<<Think about your above paragraph. You are saying that a majority party needs backbone or balls to stand up to the President, when they are the ones who have the power, and they're the ones that have been trying to take back the WH, by any means, ever since they lost it? >>

What are you talking about? Your statement above reinforces the point you're trying to dispute. It takes a brave politician to vote to remove a president and insert another one of the same party that will run as an incumbent against said politician's party in the next election. The republicans are voting on principle not politics, and you obviously agree.



To: Machaon who wrote (18646)12/12/1998 12:29:00 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
We are talking about politics. The Republicans are setting the precedent that lying "under oath" can be grounds to remove a minority President from office. This is an awful assault on the separation of powers set forth by our constitution!


Yes in fact there was an interview with a Berkeley political science professor tonight on an SF station where he elaborated on this very subject - to paraphrase, how for the first time the republicans have organized in an effort to redefine impeachment to be a purely partisan gesture. The thing that amazed him most, he said was the up front and open approach the republicans are taking with this tact... he feels you could walk up to any number of key republicans and they would immediately state (in private) that that is the game. Im trying to find a transcript of this show but the most interesting part was the disgust on the part of the interviewer and this professor for this abuse of power - by the republicans (not by Clinton).



To: Machaon who wrote (18646)12/14/1998 12:00:00 PM
From: RJC2006  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
<<<Is telling me that I "twist the facts" the same as you not being able to follow along with what I was saying? I think so. Somehow you do not know that a definition of perjury is to lie or mislead.>>>

Wrong. Perjury is to lie or mislead while under oath in a legal capacity.

<<<<<<the precedent that lying "under oath" can be grounds to remove a minority President from office. This is an awful assault on the separation of powers set forth by our constitution!>>>

Nice defense even if it is entirely bogus. Hey folks, if you are a "minority" (ATTENTION ATTENTION : race card alert - The Democrat party is now to be classified as a minority!) then you have carte blanc to lie all you want. Nice job F. Lee Bailey.

<<<Ok, how about listing one item about the Democrats violating the Constitution. >>>

Sure...the Democrat President of the United States perjured himself. There. Now tell me what part of the Constitution where this is sanctioned!

<<<Why is it that you cannot carry on a conversation without writing insulting comments? Do you lose your temper easily, or do you just
find yourself frustrated when presented with the truth?>>>

So just scream "UNCLE" and be done with it.

<<Think about your above paragraph. You are saying that a majority party needs backbone or balls to stand up to the President, when they are the ones who have the power, and they're the ones that have been trying to take back the WH, by any means, ever since they lost it? >>>

The above is proof positive that you're a pinhead. How exactly does the Republican party "take back the WH"? Hmmm? Please explain how they take back the White House if President Clinton is impeached. Duh.

<<<You are congratulating the majority party for doing significant damage to our constitution?>>>

Yawnnn...you know it's becoming more and more difficult to not recognize you for the idiot that you are. Not to mention you're a whiner. The Congress has done exactly what the Constitution dictates. If that weren't true you're lover boy on Pennsylvania Avenue wouldn't be coming on television every month telling us how sorry he is.

<<<That doesn't take balls or backbone, it takes a group of politicians who would rather tear our country apart rather than doing positive things for the benefit of the people. Doing positive things takes a lot of work. Playing politics and power plays is the easy thing to do!>>>

Blah...blah...blah. Our country was doing fine before Bill Clinton and it'll do fine without him. The one person that has single-handedly wiped out the power base of the Demoncrat party and you fall all over yourself to defend his lawlessness. Real smart.