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To: Charles Hughes who wrote (22117)	12/18/1998 4:05:00 AM
From: Nick Kline	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 24154

>> A couple of times I ran across this phenomenon and it turned out later that the guys were kicking back to management. Once, the guy was not only charging big money for no skills, he was charging at least a half dozen places at once. Of course he was a golden boy, untouchable. I think professional credentials could do something about this. The law can't do anything. White collar crime and not big enough. Usually the 'victim' is a accessory. But professional boards could look into these things, if there was a meaningful license. << Aren't kickbacks illegal in general? This is certainly the best example yet of where professional credentials would seem to help. I want to believe such certification would help, but would it? We've all known of a few stuffed shirts/suits who don't know shit, yet can talk a great game. I've seen very very few managers in the computer industry who knew much of anything. I think one of the hardest problems is that most "old line" companies, those not oriented around technology, promote people to management based on an ability to talk, and real reasoning and thinking skills aren't as important as sucking up to senior management. I've seen this again and again. Such companies believe a "manager" can work well managing anyone doing anything, regardless of training (and intelligence). For various reasons, it seems that this is especially bad for managing technology. I suppose its a bad concept in general, that a manager can know how to manage say hospital lab workers, just because she's in management. -nick