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To: QwikSand who wrote (12581)	12/13/1998 6:15:00 AM
From: mozek	Respond to of 64865

I haven't seen Sun or Oracle themselves say there was going to be a computer without an OS. From: zdnet.com Ellison, in a keynote address in November at the mammoth Comdex computer trade show in Las Vegas, outlined his plans to bundle Oracle's latest Internet friendly database, 8i, on computers that would bypass the need for Windows NT and any other operating system. You may be right. They may backpedal or restate the OS piece. In fact, the preannounce leaks could have been trial balloons to test the reception to the redefinition of OS. If they don't say an OS-less computer, the position could be defensible as another form of the NC. Have a good weekend as well. Thanks, Mike

To: QwikSand who wrote (12581)	12/13/1998 7:29:00 AM
From: Michael F. Donadio	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

QwikSand -- Mozek, Listen to Larry Ellison yourself at Comdex discussing how Oracle 8i can run directly against the hardware without an OS -- all that is necessary is a microkernal. He said this was to allow the use of the 64-bit Intel merced chip to be used and not to be held back by a 32-bit buggy Windows2000 OS. Obviously, however, a 64 bit Alpha or Sparc can do this today similarly without an OS. Listen to the talk and the discussion afterwards, it is fascinating. He is later asked if one should also dispense with Solaris. Hear what he says (using a real networks player): zdnet.com [I sometimes have to reload this link to get it to come up] It is at about 31:50 that he begins to discuss running without an OS but the entire talk is well worth listening too but it is about one hour and 20 minutes including a very hot discussion. All the best, Michael