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To: grayhairs who wrote (1040)	12/15/1998 5:32:00 AM
From: Check	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15703

Hi Grayhairs, thanks for putting my campfire and kitchen observations into engineering terms. In a way making salad dressing (without emulsifiers) is tougher than separating water and oil because you do not have to shake the latter. Now if you are tasting it in between typing, burning the gulash and yelling at the kids, and some of the oil from the top spills over the edge of the jar and you don't notice it until you resume the agitation process....well, you know exactly what happens. You lose grip, the jar flies out of control, gravity brings it to the floor of the well - I mean kitchen - before you can catch it, that task being made more difficult by the fact the little bastard is oily, more conical then a sphere ( but I don't think it would have made any difference in this case) and you have a blowout. Enormous agitation. As for not being able to tell the size of the forest from the size of the bonfire, I'm glad you confirmed that one for me as well. Ditto for trying to recork a blown magnum. Seriously, thanks for your explanations and have a good day. I'm off to cook the breakfast now. On second thought, cold cereal might be safer. Check it out

To: grayhairs who wrote (1040)	12/15/1998 9:04:00 AM
From: Salt'n'Peppa	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15703

Greyhairs, I beg to differ (of course!!!). There's no "if it is overpressured".....IT IS!!! As far as being extensive, you are right, we don't know...but we have very good indications (both original and reinterpreted seismic sections) that it is extensive. The figure 14x2 miles is still valid. Also, we have only drilled into the uppermost turbidite. The Temblor is a series of stacked turbidites, separated by shale breaks, which most likely provide seals between each thick sand package. A good friend provided the following analog. It's not gas, but maybe it'll help you. ------------------------ The Temblor formation in the Lost Hills proper sheet was also overpressured. One well produced a bit of oil ( I think I remember the number of 8000 bbls) and then an ocean of water. The sheet was uplifted before the source rock reached the oil maturation window. This is obviously not the case in the lower sheet (ELH), and was a basis for the prospectivity of the play. The upper sheet does not have large reserves of oil, but it did have a lot of water. It also showed that the faults sealed. ----------------------- Undoubtedly, there is still concern that we have an "ocean of water" at ELH too, but I just don't buy that. With the kind of pressure we are talking about, I still don't see how this well could piss steam for three solid days before the geyser formed, if this is Temblor water. It still seems more consistent with a progressive casing failure. Maybe I do need that reference on coning theory. Incidentally, I have it directly from very "high-ups" at Berkley and Westminster, that the oil companies believe the 7" lap liner failed. I wasn't even aware that a 7" liner was run to 17,640 feet. I was under the impression that it was a 9 5/8" casing. The 9 5/8" casing was in fact holding back the vertical leg that was plugged back. A window was drilled into the 9 5/8" in order to kick-off and drill the existing side-track, using 8 3/8" bits. The liner lap, as I understand it, is the point where the 7" is sealed against the inside of the 9 5/8" casing. This information came from excellent sources, and I believe it fully. I think mine will be Midnight blue.... Rick.