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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (20903)	12/16/1998 10:49:00 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<< I can't help it if I believe in God and that God grants us a soul at the end of the first trimester. >> That is not a very popular position. Most lovers of other people's fetuses consider them having a soul at conception. << I can't help it if you don't believe that. >> I don't believe the soul bit, but I do believe that a fetus starts to form into a human being at a very early time. I also believe that abortion is a very repulsive, horrible, and agonizing personal act. I also believe that it should be up to a woman and not up to politicians. The fetus's soul goes up to Heaven and the woman will be judged by her compassionate God. << Another thing I believe is that I have a responsibility for supporting the well being of and justice for all of Gods creations. >> That's a tall statement. Last night they showed the dog and cat fur trade in China. They torture dogs and cats to death for their skins and are very barbaric in doing this, in order to not damage the furs. It brought me to tears and I can't get the images out of my mind. Does this brutality against animals bother you? << I do believe that all of creation will have an opportunity to testify on behalf of my actions in this life. >> All of creation? Does that include all species? << That is, given any circumstance I found myself in did I speak, act, fight in the cause of truth and justice, did I do nothing, or did I support corruption and abuse. >> You puzzle me. When I first came to this thread, I found some of your statements interesting, as I do right now. I've got respect for much of what you say. But, just when I start thinking of you as a person for truth and justice, you get nasty and insulting to others with differing opinions. Your concern for the well being of God's creations doesn't seem earnest when I read how you treat others on this thread. But, OTOH, this statement reminds me of something said during the Holocaust about "They came for the Jews, but I wasn't Jewish so I did nothing. Then they came for the Poles, but I wasn't Polish, so I did nothing, etc......." << If you haven't given serious thought to eternity, you might want to. >> Oh, I've given a lot of thought about eternity. I just can't accept the Heaven concept. I can't picture souls, frozen in age forever, floating around doing nothing for an eternity. I can't picture souls without free will floating around for an eternity. And, if souls have free will, then there is crime in Heaven, and if sex exists in Heaven, then there are sex crimes in Heaven. No one has ever painted an acceptable picture of Heaven. No one had ever been able to, in concrete terms, say what they expect Heaven to be. Anyway, we are way off topic. But, I found your note interesting and have much respect for your beliefs (at this time). A lot of my "attacks" are satirical.