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To: one_less who wrote (20943)12/17/1998 9:13:00 PM
From: Machaon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
<< Of course you know there are dozens of other what if's on this subject. My point is are these all just woman's health issues and nobody elses business. >>

You are correct about the complexities surrounding fetal laws. But, when both partners agree to end a pregnancy, they should be able to end it. When a woman gets raped, she should be able to stop the pregnancy. If a woman's life or health is in danger, she and her doctor should be able to end it.

But, as you pointed out, in detail, there are gray issues that need to be addressed. If our Congress was interested in doing "real" and open minded work, they could solve some of these problems.

<< Some times I do see something I haven't considered before and I modify my position, fine. >>

You are in the minority on this. Most, on this thread, will twist the discussion and the words for self serving and narrow minded goals.

I can't believe how unfriendly and insulting people can be on the Internet. To me, it's far more important to be civilized then to spew hatred for others.

<< When someone decides to twist the meaning of what I've posted to energize their "side" or be disingenuous at my expense to strenthen partison positions, or hop around inconsistantly with a principle (applies to your side but not mine) I consider this dishonest and sometimes hypcritical. >>

Are you saying that the moderate, liberal, or Democratic side is the only side to be doing this, or, the only side to be doing this to you?

On another note, I find nothing wrong with countering an obnoxious note with strong language in return.

<< Some times I think someone is trying to "win" and the truth doesn't matter. So I call them a liar. >>

I agree with you on this. But, let's take the example of you saying over and over again that Clinton is a liar. Well, of course he is. But, it is hypocritical of you not to recognize that many, if not all, politician lie during their career. Sometimes it's because there is no other way. For instance, if it is for national security.

Henry Hyde lied about his 7 years of cheating on his wife. How do I know? You cannot cheat on your family for years without being dishonest and misleading to your family.

Now Richardson, the up and coming new Speaker of the House has admitted to having affair(s) and cheating on his family. How many more are there going to be on both sides? Just because these Congressmen agree with most of your points of view, are you going to excuse their behaviour? Do you want this type of Congressman representing you and making decisions that effect you?

<< If I have misunderstood you, I am sorry and I hope we can start over. >>

Sounds good to me! <g>

But, I don't think that you know enough about my views to "misunderstand" me.

Most of the radicals on this thread are not interested in learning or listening to other peoples views. They just rant and rave and throw insults.

You seem to have aligned yourself, on this thread, with this type of a person. Also, when you harassed me with your note after note about Clinton being a liar, I assumed that you were not interested in a dialog.

In closing this too long note: We differ on issues, but after reading your note, I've gained a lot of respect for you and your basic beliefs. I think that it is unfortunate that your occasionally vitriolic comments overshadow the quality of your beliefs.

Thanks for taking the time to explain your positions.

Regards, Bob