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To: Stonehenge who wrote (85949)	12/18/1998 9:25:00 AM
From: John Chen	Respond to of 176387

Stonehenge,re:"about lying". NO. It's about the 'PRESIDENCY'. The leader/Model of this country. The standard, PERIOD. Nobody is guarrenteed to be rewarded to do the right thing. Republicans are paying the price to go against the 'popular trend'. People are on Clinton/Dem side. It's a number game. Here is a simple math: 1. Majority of MONEY stay in small number of people. 2. Majority of people have small money. Dem "is for the poor" <---- the number. I would NEVER BELIEVE, there is no other person who can be an effective/good president in this country and still be CLEAN. Be it Dem/Rep.

To: Stonehenge who wrote (85949)	12/18/1998 1:19:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

Stonehenge, OT I agree with much of what you say, but disagree with the motive. I think it's really a stretch to call Clinton a liberal. I suspect that this is payback time. I think the right wing has convinced itself. through believing its own revisionist history, that Nixon was forced from office for lying. And I think they are in the process of revenging themselves on Clinton. What they do not seem to appreciate is the fact that the principle transgressions of the Nixon Administration had to do with an attempt to subvert the very foundations of American democracy. Their actions were reminiscent of those of a police state. They keep repeating a lie (Zippergate and Watergate have a lot in common), and I now believe that a lot of them have actually come to believe the lie. I am simply thankful that the majority of Americans are not nearly as gullible as their right-wing "representatives". TTFN, CTC