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To: Bill Grant who wrote (22440)	12/18/1998 9:58:00 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

From The Civil War and Reconstruction by J.G.Randall and David Donald. 1969 reprint of 1961 copywrite. D.C.Heath & Company. Page 606 If a study of impeachments elsewhere in American history be made in comparison with the Johnson case, the defects of procedure in 1868 become even more clear. Normal procedure involves a preliminary resolution calling for an investigation preparatory to the preparation of articles; then, if the investigation warrants it, the presentation of definite charges, on which there should be real deliberation. TP It seems as though the Republicans are caught in a time warp. Is this some effect of the millenium?

To: Bill Grant who wrote (22440)	12/18/1998 10:03:00 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<he couldn't pull the trigger for the right reason>> Are you saying that there were better reasons to pull the trigger before? That after all the warnings he had and all the games he played Saddam shouldn't have been hit this time but should have been hit before? You still haven't told me what he had to gain by this supposed delay. Or I may add what was the axe the republican Sectary of defense had to grind by his comments of support? pez

To: Bill Grant who wrote (22440)	12/18/1998 10:07:00 PM
From: TigerPaw	Respond to of 67261

From The Civil War and Reconstruction by J.G.Randall and David Donald. 1969 reprint of 1961 copywrite. D.C.Heath & Company. Page 609 The Radicals asserted that the Senate was not a court, but was acting in a political capacity when trying an impeachment case. Once when B.B.Butler, by a slip of the tongue, spoke of getting a bit of testimony "before the court," he was caught up by Stanbery and at once corrected himself, saying he wanted to get the point "before the Senate." Sumner's opinion was that "this proceeding ... is political in character - before a political body - and with a political obect. TP Politics as usual only with more foolish polititions.

To: Bill Grant who wrote (22440)	12/18/1998 10:15:00 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

From The Civil War and Reconstruction by J.G.Randall and David Donald. 1969 reprint of 1961 copywrite. D.C.Heath & Company. Page 616 If the reader will consult those works of political science which compare the American and British governments, he will note that the United States does not have the parliamentary system and that the President is not politically responsible to Congress. To make him virtually so by a process of impeachment, as a matter of custom outside the Constitution, would make the presentation of evidence as to "crimes" largely a matter of form, and would impose an ugly stigma and a lifetime disqualification from office-holding upon a President who might be opposed for merely political reasons. By such a policy the distractions and sensationalism of an impeachment would be injected into a contest between parties or factions. TP The RRs try try again.