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To: Grainne who wrote (27113)	12/19/1998 9:52:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

re: Jesus and love I know that Paul is said to have written that it was better to marry than burn (which suggests that marital rape was ok) but Jesus seems to have denied marriage to those worthy of resurrection (Luke, 30:35). If this was good advice, it suggests that heaven will be filled with those who embraced Jesus as Lord, and never married. Thus Peter will not be there. He may keep the keys, but, like Moses, can never enter. This heaven would include, I guess, those who were too gross or unpleasant to find a mate and those also those homosexual Christians who were not permitted by the Church to marry, and assorted Christian monks and nuns (including Mary Magdalene but not Mary the Mother of Jesus). Sounds nice to have heaven without Gingrich, Reagan, Clinton, and it would be great to have Beethoven (I guess the Missa Solemnis</e> is a sufficient passport for anyone, but Bach and Mozart deserve entry despite their marital episodes. Heaven would not admit adulterers (who have to have been married), and that includes, according to Jesus, both a man who marries after divorcing his wife (like Reagan and Gingrich), and one who marries a divorced wife (like Senator Warner), along with ordinary adulterers (like Clinton and Hyde). Sounds like a dull place, but may beat hell.

To: Grainne who wrote (27113)	12/19/1998 10:50:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

C, The reason I know Jesus's stand on homosexuality is because of the law given to Israel through Moses. This law was given to Moses by God. It is important for you to understand that Jesus and God are one. That He has always been with God existing in the form of God until He came to us in the form of a man. Jesus and God would not contradict each other but are always of one mind. When Jesus came He fulfilled the whole law therefore He kept and agreed with every statute. The law condemns homosexuality very harshly as it does adultery, beastiality and some other things. Why do you think that Jesus would participate in a corrupt political system. More to the point, why do you have any faith in it. It's a dog and pony show for the dupes, which unfortunately is most americans. I look for the truth, not something to make me feel good. There is comfort in Jesus but the word says that Jesus was a man of sorrows and well acquainted with grief. He had a heart for the down trodden and also wrath for those who put the burden on them. When I was a young christian and didn't know much I would rather suffer a terrible headache than take some aspirin. That was stupidity. The reason I know that is because I have read and studied the bible. In the kingdom of Jesus that He will soon establish there will be a tree that cures every ill. When the Israelites were brought out of Egypt by God there was a pole in the middle of the camp with a snake on it (not real). When someone was sick they just walked to it and looked at it and they were healed. Jesus wants people to get better, not suffer. Bob