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To: Rick Julian who wrote (27183)	12/20/1998 5:45:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

lol- we are all liars, but we are not all liars UNDER OATH. As all humans are liars it is critical for any system of justice to impose severe penalties for perjury, it is the cornerstone upon which any system of justice is to be founded. I have lied constantly since I was a child- but I have never lied in court, and if I did lie in court I would deserve to be punished. As I am an attorney, I could expect to be disbarred from the practice of law if I were a perjurer. Do you mean to tell me that although I could not be a member of the Bar of the state of California as a perjurer, yet I should be able to be President?

To: Rick Julian who wrote (27183)	12/20/1998 9:04:00 PM
From: Hubert Few	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Rick....re: Clinton, it seems he has always evoked a strong hot or cold reaction of great proportions amongst the populace. The very first time I laid eyes on the man I was struck by the immense negative reaction I had. I tried numerous times to rationalize this, and finally gave up figuring it was a chemistry thing similar to the way dogs react to people based on something we can't recognize. These feelings on my part are usually spot-on. I can typically size up a compulsive liar pretty quickly. I have worked with a number of people who almost seem to believe their numerous inconsistent stories. Such people seem to have extreme self-confidence issues, and have a compelling need to impress others way beyond what seems to be the "norm". It's really quite sad. I had a pretty screwed up childhood, but whatever maladies I faced, it was not enough to make me believe fantasies of my own construction. My "intuition" has always told me Bill Clinton has little creativity, or strong convictions on anything. I think he is probably a master at compiling a vast amount of public opinion and presenting a morph of himself that puts him slightly better than 50%....and that is all that counts. He would never fly as a Republican....although he certainly could make the transition if the polls said it was needed. He panders to people's belief that somehow, somewhere, there is a "break" for people who are "oppressed". It's bullshit....people fail because they lack the skills needed to succeed, not because of political, religous, or ethnic origins. In every generation you can point to people who rise above seemingly insurmountable odds and achieve greatness, not because of what they are, but because of who they are. One thing I don't understand is how any woman could point to him as an example of what they would want in a male leader. His history of dubious integrity in the workplace is proven. I would not approve of my wife working for him under any circumstances. It's unprofessional, pure and simple. A person who puts their sex drive above reason, and uses people in the process, is a low-life scumball of grand scale. Yeah Bill....cop a nut and devalue the whole country in the process. It is about sex, and it is about lying...given my druthers I'd druther seen him impeached over alleged financial impropriety. I did not want to know about his sex life, in or outside of marriage. Now that it has been rubbed in my face for many months, I want that asshole's balls on a platter and I want to see him pay for the indignation his lack of responsibility has brought us. I guess I could point to Hillary and make the typical male joke of "who could blame him?", but that's just a cruel lockeroom mentality....who knows what their relationship is really like. If he is the sole abuser of their marriage, then shame on him. If it is mutual, then they make a mockery of an agreement that takes constant sacrifice and commitment to succeed....especially in these times of diminished "morality". Climbing off the stump, I'm just sick of them both. Make no mistake....for all of my lunatic postings here, I am "happily" married (in quotes because work is not always fun) going on 11 years. My wife and I were separated for nearly two years and I never once acted on any impulses to be unfaithful. Married people should act married or they should get a divorce, it's as simple as that in my mind.