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To: Melissa McAuliffe who wrote (2852)	12/22/1998 12:08:00 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3424

Thats exactly the point Melissa. For everybody elses application, you have SQL at the data layer and a client of some sort sitting on top. With Sap you have this thing (Abap) in between. If anybody wants to do anything, Abap is pretty much a prerequisite... and it is hardly a standard since as applications get distributed across the supply chain the players on the outside rarely have the big bucks to fork out for Sap. Im talking about the distributors etc. Michelle

To: Melissa McAuliffe who wrote (2852)	12/22/1998 10:00:00 AM
From: jon iliz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3424

Melissa, I have to comment though on your last one which so much points out the SAP mentality of we are the only ones who knows what's right and how things should be done and you can do them our way or else. I have a feeling I have not been making my point here. SAP is not forcing people to use ABAP to gain access. Again, SAP leaves that barn door open and gives access to the complete data repository. Anybody can do anything they want with the same data outside of R/3. SAP does encourage third party vendors to implement their external packages as enhancements to the system. And there are vendors doing it. Plattner told the community, or at least the employees from day 1 that "I don't want to be another Microsoft and try to shut everybody else off everybody else from implementing valuable enhancements. I want this system open for other vendors as well." (this is not an exact quote because I'm pulling it and wording from my own memory. Last comment: I read from the overall tone of your message that you have already taken a emotionally stand regarding this issue and that your perception of SAP is formed and now FIXED. I believe I wont be able to change that no matter what I say. Opinions have been formed using information that was in someways tainted or misrepresented and/or misunderstood. The damage is done and there is nothing anybody can do about it. They even had to go out and invent their own programming language. You asked..."why would anyone want to accept something like COBOL instead of ABAP? That just sounds so like SAP and their approach to everything. Necessity breeds invention. There was no language in existence 10 years ago to efficiently control business processing on multi-platform Client Server systems. So does it make sense to criticize SAP for being the first to come up with one? If your answer is yes, then lets criticize SUNW for producing solaris. Lets also criticize them for creating Java. Lets all scrap Visual Basic while we are at it. J